Young Russians get to experience Iron Curtain 2.0 under Putin. (files.catbox.moe)

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[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Do you think these people voted for Putin? This is the equivalent of pretending random Americans deserve high gas prices because they voted for 1 of 2 parties who gave Israel unlimited support.

Which like they do, but because we built a country around cars instead of people, and export oil that could be used domesticly because it benefits oil companies at the expense of Americans, not because we have a political system that doesn't give us a meaningful choice.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

Do you think these people voted for Putin? This is the equivalent of pretending random Americans deserve high gas prices because they voted for 1 of 2 parties who gave Israel unlimited support.

People will say that Putin didn't win an election, then say that his citizens also madly agree with him on everything. It's impossible for both. If the man rigs elections, he's not popular. If the citizens love him, he doesn't need to rig them.

Really weird that people have such conflicting ideas about such a vile monster.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 4 weeks ago

People will say that Putin didn't win an election, then say that his citizens also madly agree with him on everything. It's impossible for both. If the man rigs elections, he's not popular. If the citizens love him, he doesn't need to rig them.

I'm really surprised to see this take from you. Have you considered that perhaps he was unpopular until he wanted to help Russians in Donetsk and Crimea, and the war boosted his popularity?

Really weird that people have such conflicting ideas about such a vile monster.

I mean, he's a liberal now, and yet he's still scapegoated for Western failures. Why do you consider him "a vile monster?" Is he as vile as Western leaders?

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world -3 points 4 weeks ago

Yes. 90% of Russians approve of Putin. I don’t doubt they all voted for him.

[-] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Why would you believe polling out of Russia? Seems folks have a lot of incentive to lie. I'm sure he has plenty of brain dead supporters, but we know how that goes.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

All those famously free elections in Russia.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 4 weeks ago

None of the ones I've met liked him, but I've only met ones who fled Russia.

Why do you suppose Russians might support him in 2026? In the 2000s/2010s, its understandable given how bad the 90s were, but now living standards are getting worse again.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Because I’ve been close friends with Russians who left Russia as adults and they absolutely love Putin for “standing up” to the west. Whatever that means.

And polls repeatedly show 90% of Russians support him. For “standing up” to the west.

Why would I doubt polls and the evidence of my own eyes and the sincerely held beliefs of people I’ve talked to?

[-] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 weeks ago

I met a Russian in China. Said his opinion: Ukraine should be part of Russia. Strong, fit, young lad.

He's still in China enjoying the good life.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

they absolutely love Putin for “standing up” to the west. Whatever that means.

Before Putin took power, the west's guy, Yeltsin, was in power, selling the copper from the walls. People remember conditions going from slightly behind the west to a third world country being ravaged by famine, alcoholism overnight as soviet industry was eviscerated by Russia's new national bourgeois, working with the west.

While Putin was one of those oligarchs, people saw him slow the bleeding by stopping the very worst excesses; standing up to the west.

But that was 25 years ago.

[-] Visstix@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

That last guy is clearly Italian

[-] Gnugit@aussie.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago

🤌

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Now this is straight злорадство.
OP does no homework to check if they voted for this or approved it.

This is like blaming Iranians for protesting, and getting genocided.

[-] stemy@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's pretty unfair to blame Russians for what is happening to them. Their country has never been remotely democratic, they don't have any control over what their governments is doing, and have virtually no chance to even hope to overthrow Putin since it ended very badly for the ones who tried. I'll even say that people on this videos are real heroes since what they are saying could be enough to send them in jail.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

How so? Polls show 90% approval. Every Russian I talk to loves the man.

[-] stemy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

à 90% approval is to be expected when opposition doesn't have virtually any platform to express themselves and criticize the government. In a country where medias are thightly controlled and censored and where criticizing the government put you or your family in danger, you can't blame people for their political opinion.

[-] Gnugit@aussie.zone -1 points 4 weeks ago

Perhaps somebody should teach them how to use txt, mms and email lists to keep in touch with friends and family.

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