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[-] whelk@retrolemmy.com 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
  • People every time a post about protests is made: "This will accomplish nothing."
  • Those same people when asked what they're personally doing since they talk like they know what will and won't work: "Also nothing."
  • (Bonus points for the ones who say violent uprisings are needed, but are not violently rising up themselves. Double bonus for "well I don't live in the US.")

Protests aren't the solution on their own, they're a step in the process of people getting to the point of doing something about the situation they've found themselves in. You can't fix a problem if you don't first acknowledge and accept that it's a problem. Stop crapping on people for protesting. Instead, encourage them to use that energy to take things further. And if you know so much about what will actually work and are going out of your way to tell people what they're doing isn't going to work, maybe you should be doing the thing you claim will work so you can lead by example instead of armchair directing.

[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeh the other step is actual violence. Not condoning or promoting it.

Just saying that has to be the next follow up if they're not listening to he protests.

[-] Naich@piefed.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Note that the person criticising the original is also not active in organising a general strike. It is permissable to hold opinions without being obliged to act on them.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. But the moment you release your opinion out on the wild, we're allowed to ridicule you for them.

[-] Naich@piefed.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Of course you can. I'm just saying that the criticism is stupid in this case. I mean, I think that fusion power would be a good thing, but fuck me for not working 24 hours a day on a PhD in nuclear physics.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Remember, if your organization is big enough to organize a general strike, the feds are there and watching. Watch your back

recall that the FBI infiltrated the civil rights movement and more even before we had a police state empowered by the Patriot Act surveillance and AI data collection.

I have zero proof, but I suspect that they are actively disrupting all attempts at organization. This is based on the history of CIA and FBI; we never know what they are doing currently, we only know a tiny bit of what they have done in the past.

Maybe I'm paranoid.

[-] mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Paranoid has proven to be downright reasonable

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What was that one phrase again? Something like "there are two kinds of conspiracy theories: antisemitic woo and declassified CIA documents"

[-] madjo@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

Could be a person not living in the USA, Max.

Us foreigners also have opinions on what's happening in the US, because it affects us too, but we have no way to affect change in the US, other than our boycotts.

[-] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

IDK Russia did a good job swaying the US public opinion and spreading propaganda.

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[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

Your wallet is your strongest voice in the eyes of this administration. Think carefully about where you spend your hard earned money.

A single day of avoiding Walmart and Amazon is not meaningful if you give them your money tomorrow. Find local businesses that deserve your money and spend your money with them instead.

Buy less and buy better quality items that last longer. Reduce consumerism and give homemade gifts or experiences instead of more junk nobody needs. Use lending libraries, swap groups, and other methods to reduce your contribution to the economy, which is frankly the only thing the American government really is interested in.

And hats off to the person who successfully organizes a general strike. I’m cheering you on from Canada.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Just because the poster doesn't take action, doesn't mean they are wrong.

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[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

no kings has no leverage and no power and no stamina and no guts. are the police attacking them in the streets? i personaly see these kind of protests as controlled off gassing. you have a large amount of people who would under other circumstances be pushed into actual action, thinking they make a difference doing this, allowing the system to functionally ignore them.

without the media on your side these protests do not work. and the media is captured, and neither side wants to see this stop

[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Are you recruiting there for an org that wants to do something that matters?

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/40568556

Or are you gonna let the Liberals get all the photo ops?

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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not going to be first in line to start doing something that actually fucking matters, but you bet your ass I'll be third.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

protests and direct action present an opportunity for everyone to go at once. it's just up to you guys to take it.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

we've seen no kings 1 & 2 change diddly squat, so obviously we'll do the same thing a third time with the high hopes that nothing will change too!

Guy that is attending the useless no kings protest

You want actual change? Look at Europe on how to protest. I'm sorry for you Americans, but you got yourself in this, you gotta dig yourself out. Trump will NOT care about the o kings protest, and it'll fade from the news within two days tops. It. Is. Not. Enough.

Protest 24/7 for months on end until the fucker is gone

Have strikes everywhere, indeed, because that it the only way you'll get his attention and get this administration to understand that it's over

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[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They ain't wrong though. And you arguing with them is no better than them arguing with you about this.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

The first comment / response or whatever that I read in there does a better job of expressing my opinion on this than I ever could.

"It's building the muscle. You have to get someone to show up one day before you can get them to show up often, or every day, or for the long haul."

Really the same goes for so many of the organizations running the events. They're local orgs, local people with different levels of experience (mostly very little) with organizing at this scale. It takes practice and time to get good at these things. It takes time to find volunteers and train them.

Contrary to what some of the comments implied, most of these events aren't planned/operated by paid professionals, not that paying for professional help is inherently a bad thing anyway. There's top-level guidance and coordination, that kind of stuff generally requires dedicated teams (aka paid employees) due to the time and skill requirements for those roles. But on the local level, it's volunteers all around. And the real planning, the hard work, is virtually all done locally by those volunteers.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i don’t agree at all. the reason is that the people who go to these will argue that they are making a difference and fight against what comes next.

these are not even having the police interfere so you know no one cares at all. school children have a walk out criticizing israel? police show up with chemical weapons and shoots people point blank with less the lethal rounds. go to a no kings and police is directing traffic.

no these protests are a distraction to make people think that nothing more has to be done, and they did their part.

and then on tv the largest mass protest in history is a foot note to trumps birthday party. so no.

[-] rayyy@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

The No Kings Marches are just a prelude. Imagine all those millions of people participation in the upcoming general strike . Then imagine those millions turning to violence. Imagine them armed.

[-] homes@piefed.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Just a suggestion, but becoming armed before becoming violent might be a better order of progression.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

LOL what country do you think this is? "Becoming armed"? Bro this is America.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

except the ones who have traditionally fought against the right to bear arms is the same people protesting. they need to be armed, and they need to protest with their arms, same reason a government will parade with their weapons

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[-] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why is it always a general strike? Why not a rent/mortgage strike?

[-] MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was actually a big organizer in my community last year and had to step away because my wife and I were getting doxxed from MAGA idiots, but I agree with the first comment.

At least in my city, no planning other then planning the next protest is all they do. People ask to help and really they just want to help very little so they feel useful. Which usually is "I can buy more poster boards next time for others" and "I'll help set up the sign up sheets for next protest."

I tried organizing strikes but people wouldn't show up if it wasn't convenient for them. Most people want it to go back to how it was, few want it to completely change. I'm going to partake in the national strike, but fuck the No Kings protest. It's become a festival for those wanting to not be unconvinced with real civil disobedience.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's the pot calling the kettle black. Infighting between groups who manage to effect 0 change.

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