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[-] MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 1 points 3 weeks ago

I was actually a big organizer in my community last year and had to step away because my wife and I were getting doxxed from MAGA idiots, but I agree with the first comment.

At least in my city, no planning other then planning the next protest is all they do. People ask to help and really they just want to help very little so they feel useful. Which usually is "I can buy more poster boards next time for others" and "I'll help set up the sign up sheets for next protest."

I tried organizing strikes but people wouldn't show up if it wasn't convenient for them. Most people want it to go back to how it was, few want it to completely change. I'm going to partake in the national strike, but fuck the No Kings protest. It's become a festival for those wanting to not be unconvinced with real civil disobedience.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Why does a general strike have to be organized? All folks have to do is stop buying things or spending money as much as possible. The fucking country would grind to a halt. The amount of shit that we buy that we dont need is staggering... Probably daily you buy something (likely multiple things) that you dont need. And here'a the thing: you have to be ready to suffer. No change will come to us if we continue to prioritize comfort and convenience.

And if you have to go to work, do the bare minimum to stay employed. Some may say to actively sabotage, but i wouldnt say that or think it, so you should not actively sabotage the company you work at.

A general strike for one-day is silly. Any company can weather one day.

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago

Why does a general strike have to be organized?

Because we have like, 350 million people here, and if it's not organized, you just have a tiny insignificant percentage buying less and the economy doesn't even notice.

If "buy less stuff" was all it took, well... I've been doing that for years, so why isn't the problem solved yet? It's because the vast majority of people aren't. It needs an organized effort to get the word out, and to make people who otherwise wouldn't engage understand the potential impact, and how to realize that.

There's also the problem where a prolonged general strike would mean a huge number of people would lose their health care and wouldn't be able to pay rent or buy food and that's simply not sustainable. I'm not sure how to overcome that problem, and so far nobody else seems to, either.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

Sure, we'll all voluntarily surrender our paychecks, and starve. I'm sure MAGA will show empathy, and totally change their attitude, and won't just point and laugh at us as we starve, and scabs do our jobs for us.

I'd rather shut down the MAGA government for an extended period, deny them THEIR money, and hurt THEM. So the airports are out of control, who care? Almost everybody inconvenienced in an airport is upper middle class at the least. Most of them have money, and disproportionately vote MAGA.

So I'm sorry about the workers who get screwed, but I'm extremely happy to see people with money whining about missing their time on the slopes, or that big merger meeting that will unemploy thousands, or that AI training that will unemploy thousands, etc. Fuck them, make them wait for hours, as they ponder how voting MAGA has improved their lives.

[-] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just pointing out, a general strike is not only self-inflicted. Per day it would cost the government far more than what a government shutdown does. We're talking about a factor of 70.

A government shutdown costs are an estimated 500 millions a day.

If we only shave of half of the daily GDP due to a general strike, we are talking about 38 billion.

You are right in saying it would hurt you as well, but a general strike is a lot more effective.

Edit: Btw, Americans daily shopping contributes only about a third of daily gdp.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That number is ridiculous on the face of it. Perhaps the POTENTIAL is there, but the reality is that when people don't shop for a day, they just buy what they need the day before or after, so that number isn't real.

As for workplace impact, there's a bit, but just like shopping, whatever work needs to be done will be done after or before, and if you don't, you'll be fired. American workers have literally no job security protections. After a one day general strike, many Americans would find that they are the victims of a permanent Employer Strike. That's something that European workers simply don't understand. You won't get fired for a strike, but we DEFINITELY will. Many, many employers will fire EVERY worker who doesn't show up on strike day.

And this isn't all about the MONEY anyway, that's a particularly Capitalistic perspective. The current shutdown, which isn't even a full shutdown, is making them crazy, all day, every day. They are constantly asked about it by journalists, it is on every single news broadcast, and it clearly focuses the entire nation, and more importantly, the MAGA Government, on the problem. This shutdown isn't about money, it's about morality, and MAGA has a very difficult time defending themselves on the morality front.

[-] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

We can agree to disagree. Just pointing out the facts.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

You are not agreeing to disagree.

You are calling them a liar.

[-] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

I'm not. Just disagreeing with their take. Calm down.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Calm down? We're gunna circle back around to that.

But in what world is half of a percent of 500m a day equal to 38 billion? So not only are you incorrect in your turn of phrases, but you also don't understand math.

And I was calm, just pointing out that the phrase you used was incorrect. You so casually dropping that phrase is pretty fucking misogynistic, it really reads like a guy talking down to a woman. You should really work on that about yourself.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I want to see bloody filled rebellion with dead elites bodies being pissed on.

Yes please?

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago

Well, get on it then, instead of erping in comment sections.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Being part of march is already more than what many people would do. Seen too many times after the whole CEO execution last year people saying shit like "oh won't somebody step up and do something", "somebody should really try and change the system", or "I would totally support someone stepping up".

Buddy, that someone better be you. If not, be quiet.

  • Sincerely, a union representative of my workplace.
[-] gurty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, lets argue amongst ourselves. That always works.

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