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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

Been looking for a search engine that isn't plauged with SEO garbage every time I look for anything. Been using DDG for quite a long time now, and I'm starting to get dissatisfied with results. It seems like more and more results are just companies trying to make their way to the top of the search results instead of anything organic. It's even worse when I look for any kind of service or product.

Looking for as close to 100% organic results as possible.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • so yeah, Google is Google, the very definition of SEO – to the point now they will completely ignore your query to show you “relevant” results
  • and Bing is Microsoft, ’nuff said – although I hear they seem to be THE choice for porn searches …
  • people have been claiming DuckDuckGo has become just a frontend for Bing which is why their results have been declining 🤷
  • ad tech company System1 owns a majority stake of Startpage – apparently they’ve mollified PrivacyTools that it would not impact Startpage’s privacy focused mission
  • Qwant out of France actually seems to be stepping up as a good netizen, not only focusing on privacy but also investing in privacy initiatives in EU
  • otherwise you’re stuck bouncing around ~~SearX~~ SearXNG instances – Google and Bing REALLY don’t like meta search engines and will regularly block overactive instances

EDIT: looks like SearX is pretty much dead and had been replaced by SearXNG

[-] birdcat@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Qwant "The search engine that doesn't know anything about you, …"

Clicks on link: "Unfortunately we are not yet available in your country."

🤔

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I mean … I suppose that’s marginally better than Google’s frontpage telling me what town I’m in?

[-] huojtkeg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

SearxNg is a meta search engine. You can combine results from Google, Bing and DDG. The most repeated results will be sorted first eliminating the SEO

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think you'll find anything. Search engines locate relevant results by design. The only way they can do that is by interpreting the contents of public-facing webpages. There are some things they can do to combat obvious keyword stuffing, but ultimately, overly SEO'd sites are going to work around it with content that appears relevant but really isn't (think recipe websites with 20 paragraphs and pictures of bullshit nobody cares about and the actual content you want to see at the bottom ... that kind of thing).

[-] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Kagi is how I search now. Very, very occasionally search for something on Google in specific circumstances, buy otherwise it's all Kagi. Web has become a lot less noisy for me, and they label each search result with how many ads/trackers the site uses. Definitely have found smaller, "quieter" sites that have given me much better info, that hasn't been paid for.

Especially good for tech-review searches.

I'm hearing a lot of recommendations for Kagi. Maybe when I can afford another subscription service, but that time isn't right now.

I'm also not a fan of having all my searches potentially tied to one account, even if they say they respect privacy. Makes me very weary to try it.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$5/month is very steep, and it only includes 300 searches. There's no way Google makes that per month off of advertising to me, and I really don't see how $1/month wouldn't be more than enough to cover their costs.

[-] trashhalo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Google has probably managed to reduce cost at scale. I'd expect kagis internal cost per search to go down with time. But they may not pass those saving onto the user.

[-] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just remember that when something is free, you're the product.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I second this. It's paid, and I've only been using it a week, but I like it.

[-] Gargari@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Kagi, as others mentioned is good but need to pay. Logical. I used to have SearxNG instance but I tend to use search engines in general less and less so no worth to maintain it, currently using DDG or BraveSearch

[-] OofShoot@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I use Ecosia which is a reskin of bing that plants trees with your search results. I've never had any issues with low quality results, but maybe we have different ideas of what that means.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://kagi.com/ if you haven't heard of it. Has been working well for me. I went from DDG to this.

[-] agedbeef@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

100% kagi. I only need google if looking for images/video. But otherwise kagi is significantly better than anything I’ve ever used. Worth the $10/mo I pay

[-] cc42@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same here too

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

You need to be more specific about what you mean by "SEO garbage" because every search engine is going to put "SEOed" pages higher up.

[-] ligmawan@lemmy.my.id 1 points 1 year ago

I guess we all know that mean, some page are filled with just a bunch of keyword and no content to just raising it SEO and for visitor traffic.

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