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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Basically this statistic shows that the word "parenting" was invented at this time. Nothing more. The concept exists since before the dawn of humanity.

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 1 month ago

Not really, no. The modern concept of a parent is really recent invention. Parents 70 years ago did not have expectations and responsibility that parents have today.

Your great grandparents would absolutely think the job of parenting today is absurd to the point of just being comedy.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

Parents 70 years ago did not have expectations and responsibility that parents have today.

Bullshit, and there are people alive today that can call bullshit on your claim, I know a few.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 1 month ago

All kids used to be free range.

Ask anyone born circa 1960.

Pretty much everyone of them will have a 'Stand By Me' type story about travelling alone as a grade school kid.

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today -2 points 1 month ago

Parents used to buy postage and literally mail their kids across the country.

And people didn't think that was weird.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Kids are allowed to fly without an adult today.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

Compared to the conditions in the trains, it wasn't that bad.

Also, the longest distance was about 700 miles, not really cross country.

https://postalmuseum.si.edu/very-special-deliveries

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 1 month ago

In 1913, 700 miles was practically across the country. That was further away than most adults traveled from their birth town in their lives.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Not really. The transcontinental railroad had been around for over fifty years.

Cars were already pretty popular. There were already about 5 million of them out there.

Ocean liners and tourism was available.

The St. Louis Worlds Fair of 1904 got 20 million visitors.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bro...

Things exist even if labels don't...

"Parenting" exists across most animals, and humans have been doing it since the first human.

They just didn't say "parenting" in book titles...

On July 14th, 1946, at the dawn of the post-World War II baby boom, Dr. Benjamin Spock published The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care. It would become a foundational work on the topic of parenting, transforming how generations of children were raised.

The book, which has sold more than 50 million copies and been translated into more than 50 languages, stands as one of the best-selling nonfiction works of the 20th century. A culmination of more than 20 years of scholarship—and written over seven years with his wife Jane—the book debuted a revolutionary approach to child-rearing, all delivered in a warm, congenial tone.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/July-14/dr-spock-baby-and-child-care-book

But the topic was widely discussed prior to that.

Spock just started using studies to justify parenting styles rather than ancedotal advice.

But obviously the studies had to come before his book.

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 1 month ago

I honestly don't believe that Dr. Spock would recognize today's parenting expectations as anything other than absurdity. Which it is.

No where did he say that children should not be allowed to go to a store by themselves, or that kids should be expected to have a minimum of 16 hours of college credits before they turn 18.

When he was writing, he would not have been able to imagine the way "parenting" would evolve by the end of the century.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No where did he say that children should not be allowed to go to a store by themselves, or that kids should be expected to have a minimum of 16 hours of college credits before they turn 18.

You...

You think that started in the 70s?

When he was writing, he would not have been able to imagine the way “parenting” would evolve by the end of the century.

So...

You also admit that the concept of parenting existed long before you said it did?

Like, what you're saying is still wrong, but it's miles closer than your post. I'm not sure if we're making progress or moving goalposts, but I'm buckled in.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Is this meant to be a poorly executed April fools joke?

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I feel like what OP is lamenting is kind of like the washing machine thing. When we invented washing machines it was expected to save housewives from having to work as hard, but instead it freed them to do other work. Everyone will always work (or parent) as much as they can, but depending on the environment (and technology) the expectations shift.

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think so. What I'm lamenting is that our society is so far removed from having actual community that people can't even imagine what life was like back then when parents wouldn't give any thought to kicking their 9 year old kids out of the house to go run around their cities because the parents knew that everyone in town knew who their kids were and everyone looked after each other, and especially the kids.

That really was normal for most of human history.

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