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[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 minutes ago

Even if you do get this to produce appreciable amounts of light, this seems like a really good way to have these plants spread outside of their designated areas and fuck up wildlife even more than our artificial lighting does already.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 hour ago

Damn tankies again stealing solarpunk aesthetics! (/s)

[-] robotElder2@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago

Sounds like it might look cool but even if they were able to actually make enough light for a public space I doubt it would actually be more energy efficient to feed water and maintain extensive gardens down every street than to install some LED bulbs.

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Yes, I think it would mostly be a really cool aesthetic gimmick, not serve a critical function. But probably no harm done in planting plants and LEDs can still be used, if needed. Also I'm not a biologist, but even if those plants inevitably spread to the wild, I assume that the impact on ecosystems from some glowing plants would be minimal. Maybe they could distract insects? But artificial lights already do that and are much brighter. I don't think they would be bright enough to affect most night time animals (owls, rodents, predators hunting rodents, etc.) if they spread to forests, or at least I hope they won't have a harder time hiding. Okay, maybe someone should look into the possible effects on a case by case basis depending on species and region.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 58 minutes ago

Even if it wasn't more energy efficient, you'd also get fresh air from the plants as a bonus, and an ecosystem developing around them. Plants also help manage heat in cities which is another bonus. Having more nature in the city may have a positive effect on mental health. Finally, you'd be massively saving on materials that go into making stuff like LED bulbs that could now be used elsewhere. If you could make the plants glow bright enough, imagine how many billions of LEDs you'd be saving in a country the size of China.

[-] robotElder2@hexbear.net 2 points 46 minutes ago

Imagine all the fertilizer and labor spent on the plants. I agree that more green space would benefit any city but I don't think a monoculture of plants engineered for maximum bioluminescence would make a healthy base for it. Public lighting and public greening are two separate problems and trying to solve both at once means not doing as good a job at either.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Using fertilizer and labor sounds better than mining and refining stuff like rare earths to me. You could probably even process waste from sewage into fertilizer creating a somewhat closed system this way. On the balance, this seems like a preferable trade off all around if you're going to need to produce light somehow. There's also no reason why this would need to be a monoculture, and they actually talk about engineering a variety of plants in the article.

I don't really see how you can make the assertion that these are two separate problems that can't be elegantly solved in this way. We'll only know whether that's the case once it's actually tried.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

for fuck sakes, no.

These have a dim glow similar to mushrooms, no one is going to light a city with that.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

I don't think there's any fundamental reason why you couldn't get plants to produce a stronger glow though.

[-] lemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 51 minutes ago

I think the energy metabolism of any organism would limit the amount of light you can get. I don't believe any organism (except maybe bacteria with lots of nutrients provided) has that much energy to spare and handle without dying pretty fast.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 46 minutes ago

there's actually some research on the subject that I linked in the other reply in this thread

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 54 minutes ago

Of course there is, you can't get more energy out than you put in.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 47 minutes ago

Obviously, but that doesn't mean plants can't be designed to accumulate energy during the day though photosynthesis and release it at night in form of bioluminescence. There's actually a whole separate line of research regarding that:

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago

I’ve seen one of those glowing petunias in real life, it’s laughable that glowing plants could illuminate anything like a park or a street.

Don’t get me wrong, it was cool af, but it’s not the future of lighting

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