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Ironically the fork that only runs on the phones made by the company that also makes Android
It's a fork and always will, it's still android. I don't get why people refer to it as a different project. It's the same project with tweaks.
I get what you are saying. But the difference is more akin to Mint and Ubuntu. Where one started as a fork of the other, which itself was a fork of something else, but at this point in time both are so different from their original source material that they’re all three just considered different distributions of the same thing.
Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian all still rely on the Linux kernel, though. A better comparison might be how LineageOS is technically a fork of the dead CyanogenMod project, but even before the latter fully imploded was different enough to be its own thing.
Both of them still relied on the existence of AOSP though, for new features, bug fixes, hardware support, certain core functionality, etc. AOSP is a lot bigger than just the Linux kernel, and because of the tighter coupling between hardware and software on mobile devices, there's a whole other discussion about creating a real non-Android OS for them, but I think that's a closer parallel.
Good old Cyanogen, my 10yo found my old nexus one in a draw, charged it up and turned it on....CyanogenMod boot screen, nice.
Mint still takes upstream changes from Ubuntu though right?
And Google has been taking steps to make Graphene development impossible over the past few years. It's going to be gone eventually.
With their partnership with Motorola I'm not so sure.
Google is not targeting graphene, google is targeting custom roms in general. Graphene isn't the only project impacted by them.
That... Doesn't affect my point at all.
GrapheneOS = Android Open Source Project (AOSP) + Open Source Tweaks
Android(TM) (Google licensed) = Android Open Source Project (AOSP) + Different Commercial Tweaks
The base is the same, the OS is not. Just like Windows 11 is not Windows NT, but the base is the same.
@atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works I've started using the Windows comparison instead of Linux, for some reason ot seems to hit harder.
Except that Windows 11 is Windows NT.
They quit using the NT number when they switched from waterfall to “agile” releases. But 10 beta had an official release version of 6.4 and then they switched that to 10.0 which they have left alone since for 11 and the latest Server editions.
By that logic you should call most web browsers Konqueror, because ultimately ~~they all~~ most of them forked from it.
Edit: Fixed wrong information.
Konqueror? KDE's browser?
I think you meant to say Mosaic.
I've phrased myself wrong, I mean that most of them are ultimately based on Konqueror (including WebKit and Chromium-based browsers). Firefox of course doesn't have much to do with Konqueror.
Not based on Konqueror (the browser) but on khtml (the render engine Konqueror was built around).
in the end, everything is just a fork of fortran
Firefox us not. But not ecen the same. Its like arch, Debian Fedora are all Linux.
They just announced a partnership with Motorola.
I was going to say "isn't Motorola owned by Google though?", but then I looked it up. They're owned by Lenovo. But they were owned by Google! In 2014, which is 12 years ago and I'm going to go crumble to dust now...
Lenovo still not a good company but I likemy Motorola phone
Isn't there also Jolla? Iirc they run on Linux.
Yeah but sailfish isn't open source, and it's not really available North America.
You either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
I wouldn't call Android "brilliant" nowadays if you count the forks that come pre-installed on most phones nowadays. It's bloated to the gills and keeps the user locked out of being able to control what certain apps can do and access.
that's why it says "was". in my personal opinion it was always hot garbage but that's besides the point
Linux phone, open for customization… it was brilliant… kinda….
fuck anything related to Java though
But GOS is Android
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