Not sure what you mean. Been running Wayland for years with little to no problems. No desktop environment though
Yeah good for yoy, but my 50 year old mum needs a desktop environment
I get that. Surely there's bugs. I just wanted to add the perspective since you painted a picture of a broken technology. I'd talk to your distro's maintainers if they are rolling out unstable stuff
Sounds like GNOME pisses you off. Try a window manager/compositor that is not designed by lunatics who think the OK/Cancel buttons should be at the top of the window when everything else reads left-to-right/top-to-bottom, and that every application should provide its own window decorations so every application looks wildly different. Maybe you would prefer https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
Also, X11 is decades of half-baked garbage hacks piled on top of half-baked garbage. Wayland fixes real problems.
I decided to try Wayland a year or so ago. I never used X11 again. I use hyprland and niri with no issues

Depending on the "old" definition, but yes will continue to do so!
Wayland doesn’t even do lock screen, jitters on scroll… I don’t get the hype.
If it were new I’d be patient, but I feel like it’s been 10 years now.
As the author of a wayland gtk lockscreen - the first assertation is false.
I also don't experience any jitter on scroll on any device
Wayland does do lock screen: https://wayland.app/protocols/ext-session-lock-v1
The only thing I ever see jitter on scroll in Wayland is X11 applications. What is jittering on scroll for you?
Man, i'll have to remember that the next time I go to unlock my computer running wayland. Apparently it's all in my imagination.
Also running it on Nvidia, which is the nightmare setup, and scrolling is fine. I think you just have an issue with your setup. I've only seen issues like that with generic graphics drivers.
Thank you all for the responses. Let me preface this to offer a modicum of credibility. I started my open-source adventure at the turn of the millennium when I found an obscure dutch program called Blender back in the NAN days and volunteered, earning several different positions in the organization as it grew over the next decade and a half. I also was a beta-tester for Artrage (could spot endianess issues when mac switched from motorolla to intel chips), working on other graphics software, commercial and open-source. My primary machine is a Legion Pro laptop with rtx 5800. And am currently employed at a company doing tech support for a linux operating system.
The idea of how do you take these outputs and present them to the user is a fascinating subject I will NEVER get bored of and every advancement excites me. I don't know how Wayland works, all I know is that in Mint there is an option to turn it on when I log in, and every two years or so I try it, and I end up saying, "not ready yet" because well I need to lock my screen when I leave my computer, not to hide anything but out of respect for the data of my users. Scrolling, probably in Firefox, looks like a strobe light, that's an exaggeration but it is anything but smooth or with the momentum X11 provides. I'm old now, in my 50's, I don't want to faff about with settings or extra shit... so that is why I gave the critique I gave. If you wrote a lockscreen then wtf isn't it incorporated into Wayland, I mean I might be 60, 70 years old by then... it just seems like the string theory of graphics display, and if it's that fucking convoluted, why don't you guys just start over?
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