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[-] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago
  1. Study is only about Denmark which has both an advanced Wind Turbine industry and a lot of wind. This is not generalisable.

  2. Study calculates the financial costs, not the energetic cost. Given that the energy market has a lot of subsidies, taxes and government owned companies, the prices in currency are not a good representation of the real costs. A framework like EROI (Energy Return On Investment) is a much better indicator, because it looks at the amount of energy generated per amount of energy spent.

  3. Nuclear power is expensive because it has ridiculous safety demands compared to all other technologies. If all energy sources would have to incorperate the potential risks they pose in their safety measures, they'd be much more expensive. To illustrate: The Fukushima disaster cost two (2!) lives, whereas each year, 6 to 9 million people die because of the effects of fossil fuel generated air pollution. If owners of fossil infrastructure would be liable for those deads in the same sense as owners of nuclear industry currently are, nuclear would blow the competition out of the water.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

Nah, can't trust these studies:

Nuclear is expensive (when measured outside China as another hexbear suggests in the comments here) because the west cannot build affordable nuclear. All solar panels come from China too, if we could import Chinese nuclear it would be competitive.

[-] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

This is a really bad linear fit of the graph. If you remove the pre-2010 data for China (just 5 data points), the trend of prices in China is actually upwards or just barely neutral.

Of course, nuclear is a great baseload source. But the construction costs are real.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Linear fit or not, still about an order of magnitude below western prices

[-] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, yeah. That's just a given for China

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Bu bu buh my online nooklear shills keep telling me it's the only solution

[-] Oskolki@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

I'm gonna combine the two together so you can stop fisty fighting and be friends instead.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Fukushima says the economic impact is still ongoing so, yeah, no thanks

[-] Oskolki@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

Why do you assume that the person you're talking to is always ignorant and that you are so much smarter than them? Please read past the headline and think for yourself.

If you don't other people are going to continue to think for you, it is a choice all of us have. Not everyone chooses the path of least resistance, contrary to what you may believe. Some people choose to be patient, work hard, some choose to be honest and others choose to lie. There's a massive coal lobby funding both Anti-Renewable propaganda and Anti-Nuclear propaganda and you're falling for it. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and proper applications, they have different safety standards.

Ignorance has killed more people than there are currently living on this entire planet, high time we try to solve that and educate the masses.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah init. Drives me mad

[-] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

That’s what happens when you have changes that’s can be iterated really quickly without the safety overhead.

I hope it all adds up with some sort of geothermal closing the gap. The state can start to wither way in centuries as we permanently bury the last of the waste.

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