It took decades of fighting to get smoking banned, and if everyone and their uncle didn't have a parent dying of lung cancer, it probably wouldn't have happened.
bribes
You know when you see an advertisement for a casino, and they have a picture of a guy winning money? That's false advertising, because that happens the least. That's like if you're advertising a hamburger, they could show a guy choking. "This is what happened once."
Mitch Hedberg
basically alcohol gets a pass because its a drug that has been in use since the stone age. Im a big "victimless" crimes person and I would like to see much legalized but I would like them all put into a category where its allowed at home or at licensed establishments and advertising is limited to private residences or at businesses that are in the category. I would restrict the signage for the businesses to. So the brothel, race track, casino, dispensiary, liquor store would look rather non descript from the outside but all would have controlled entry to only allow adults and inside it would likely be filled with ads for other establishments.
There's a whole lot of victims of alcohol tho
I agree with everything. I want to add, a lot of drugs have been used since the stone ages. Animals, not just humans, tend to use drugs fairly commonly. It's only a modern thing to think they're purely bad.
With that said, modern drugs often remove them from their cultural context, and are in higher purities and larger quantities than are naturally available. Chewing on a coca leaf is a lot different than doing cocaine, even though they're largely the same thing (though the coca leaf has a lot of stuff that's removed in processing to make cocaine). Cultures where it's common, it doesn't cause nearly the same issues as cocaine does in other places, because they don't have the same culture around it and are sometimes getting a lot more.
I agree though; people should be allowed to do what they want. The government shouldn't be deciding it for them, and neither should advertising. They should be free from pressure either way to decide what they want to put into their body.
I agree with all that but is lime to see a tax on it to fund treatment centers.
Not sure where you live, but I think basically every state in the USA has an extra tax on alcohol.
Look up "sin tax"
I don't think much, or any, of that is going to recovery programs though.
That's how dispensaries in IL already are.
Big Booze
A few reasons.
First, the alcohol industry has been a lot more sensitive to being perceived as selling to kids than the tobacco industry was. Because of it, there was never the push to ban advertising and conduct a mass media effort to control teen drinking as there was teen smoking.
Second, people still remember prohibition in the USA and how it was a failure. So, you've got a lot of people worried about a slippery slope in comparison to tobacco.
Third, the alcohol industry is far better at lobbying around specific items that would actually prevent consumption. For instance, alcoholic beverages don't need to show nutritional information. It will bend in a way that keeps access open.
One thing you see in the alcohol adds, no one ever actually drinks on screen.
They have better ~~bribers~~ lobbyists
Advertising is weaponized pollution. All of it. In any shape or form. It is littering and spreading garbage for profit.
Bill Hicks had an excellent suggestion for those in that industry.

The proof that there is only Texas as promised.
(For those that didn’t see the comments about assuming everyone is American. This explains the Texas education system.
Btw no one in Texas calls it “the gulf of America “ we thinks that’s stupid to.
all advertisement is bad. best to avoid all of it. use the fediverse, don't use commercial internet platforms.
How exactly are new companies supposed to find clients if all advertising is bad?
there should obviously be indexes which tell you what stuff exists. stuff like amazon where you search for "desk" and it shows you the 10 desk providers that can be delivered to your location.
We don't, alcohol adverts are just as illegal as tobacco. Of course; that might not be the case everywhere on the planet :P
I appreciate you being friendly with it. I just wasn’t thinking about savages.
Z”that’s a joke by the way.
Our education is American centric. “We arrived to this empty land and these hundreds of tribes had a stick up for here butt so we generously held lad on thier behalf in a trust they have no control over. There were treaties.‘don’t look them up but it wasntotallynlegit broh
Theres actually a joke here “we learn geography based on what war we’re in”
If I moved to your country you probably list me as mentally disabled “the usSr can’t hurt you it been gone-
“WE NEED THIRTY NUCLEAR LAND MINES!”
I appreciate you taking it easy on me
OP is talking about the US
Aka "the default place".
Weird, I see no mention of this "US", how are we supposed to know?
Why is my comment below being removed for harassment for pointing out a fact?
Similarly, why are they allowed to advertise every fancy new and half untested medicine out there?
Like, take such and such drug to eliminate pimples, but possible side effects are hair loss, heart attack, brain bleeding, rectal leakage, miscarriage, loss of fingernails and toenails, blah blah...
Ask your doctor if Nwxalviva is right for you
"Yeah, I know you went through 8 years of med school and internships and have years and years of experience and ongoing education, but I heard part of a 30 second commercial playing in the background so I think I'm pretty well qualified to make this suggestion to you..."
Because when you make the drunks angry they start shooting at cops. Smokers do not do that as much.
You have never tried quitting nicotine!
To be fair, as an alcoholic, alcohol ads had zero effect on my purchases.
Before I quit, the only thing that influenced my buying was the calculator app on my phone. For beer it was Millilitres per can times cans per block divided by ABV, divided by price. Higher number good.. For scotch and port it was easier.
divided by abv
Well it's probably a good thing you quit!
Cigarette companies themselves actually lobbied for cigarette commercials to be banned. For more information, look up knowing better cigarettes on YouTube since I'll have to write an essay to explain why and he puts it way better than I can
I’m not saying I don’t believe you. But is saying if cigarettes wanted to stop advertising they didn’t need approval.
So op advertising.
To try to oversimplify: there was some law from the Clinton administration that said for X amount of ads for cigarettes, information for what cigarettes do to you must be aired as well (in the form of an ad). So, to kill 2 birds with one stone, they lobbyed and successfully got cigarette ads banned. This served to try and suppress potential competition outside of the big name brands and information for what cigarettes actually do to you. So, it was a 4D chess move done by the big cigarette companies collaborating with each other. I hope that makes sense
I've always found it weird that alcohol doesn't have warning labels. At least not where I live. I guess the risks are common knowledge but we can say the same for cigarettes
And how there's no requirements to show ingredients/calories per 100ml, despite it being required on all other foodstuffs. And imagine if they had disgusting pictures on beer cans saying "don't drink and drive" or such.
Alcohol causes impotence
r/USdefaultism
is what I'd say if this were reddit lol
What the hell is the US. I know every county in Texas. Got a cousin and pig in each one. Never heard of none of that “us” business.
I went to the shiny-est college in the planet (which is Texas) and I saw a black man there! He was delivering groceries but almost looked him in the eye. I’m a progressytives!”

Edit: just to be clear I wasn’t naming two animals at my farm. Each farm has a pig who is my cousin. Just wanted to make that very clear. I have cousin pigs
2nd edit: and sometime I lie with them as bride and groom.
It’s legal in Texas as long as a gun is involved
Canada has aboot 40 million people, the UK has about 70 million, Australia has 30 million, and New Zealand (5 million) is basically a rounding error. Since the US has over 300 million people, other English speakers tend to migrate to primarily US platforms.
What I find most interesting about these statistics is the difference in population density between the UK and the USA. Although the US is ~40 times larger, it only contains 7x more people.
I want to add I also get negative comments when I do say “I’m American” to preface something.
It’s really lose/lose but I don’t blame them. America has been pissing a lot of people off lately. Including Americans. Even the trumpets are looking at him like “wtf are you doing”
The various native tribes here have had to band together because we keep deporting NATIVE AMERICANS!
Oh interesting side note when my American friends travel they say they are Canadian because they are embarrassed.
who tf is we?
It’s the Royal we
I do think that on a phone or computer one ought to be able to opt out, like how shops who spam me in email say "do you want to opt out of mother's day emails?" Because they don't want to send them if your mom or kid just died, right?
But I don't know how you would do that without sort of registering as an alcoholic, which seems problematic.
I'm literally subscribed to an industry newsletter and research cocktails for the community here, and haven't seen very many ads for any sort of alcohol though? Are you really seeing them all the time?
If you wanted to make it possible to opt out of certain categories of ads (like alcohol) on personal devices/computers, without having to tell the advertiser that you're an alcoholic or similar, perhaps a law could mandate that ads made for those products or brands associated with them be tagged as such in some way, and that software that displays ads should have a setting to not display ones that arrive with that tag? That way the setting only needs to be client side. I mean ideally you'd just not have ads at all but that's a much bigger and more difficult fight than just alcohol obviously.
Because we live in a society that hates women as much as it hates cancer
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