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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Head of Russia's Human Rights Council admits banning VPNs is "impossible"

Attempting to block all VPNs would disrupt businesses and banks

The official still condemned citizens using VPNs to access blocked media

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[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Europe be like... liar we going to try anyway.

[-] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Brewchin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Orly? You don't say.

The sooner UK PLC gets this into their thick, ideological skulls the better. ๐Ÿ‘€

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

If anything is impossible, it's Utah having any sense. They started out as a cult, and they still follow it

[-] belochka@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you'd seen the original statement in Russian, you'd realize this person has no idea what they are talking about at all, and with their job title, the purpose of it is just to present some kinda more liberal viewpoint for appearance.

And yes, it's possible, Iran and North Korea are doing it, and there are plenty of countries with heavy censorship and regulation, and there's a piece of good engineering advice I once got - "you get to your goal faster if you don't pick up boss fights", meaning that while it's cool for a commenter on the Web to imagine them taking the hardest and most expensive path to solving the problem of censorship and control, they have different choices.

[-] alakey@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Iran has switched to intranet and isn't looking back. They now started selling foreign traffic at ridiculous prices and only to licensed companies, not consumers. Naturally, this created a black market with even more exorbitant prices, but that isn't really a concern when it stops quite literally 99% of the traffic from reaching outside, and russia has already been planning to cut off foreign traffic as a whole in a similar fashion, except for now they are proposing that ISPs should provide the "internet+" plan to the regular users as well.

All this to say - they aren't saying "oh well, we can't block VPNs anyway, so we give up", they are justifying the upcoming internet blackout, with the best case scenario where ISPs can provide much more expensive plans for foreign traffic. Not a lot of people are going to have the finances and ability to go through the trouble of paying for the internet access, foreign traffic and a bleeding edge VPN to access youtube.

Also lol @ him claiming internet censorship and restricting freedom of speech are different things, when a state newspaper recently published an article claiming that the iranian internet blackout is a massive attack on human rights and might lead to the end of the regime (check out Steve Rosenberg on YT if you are curious).

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The guy you mentioned is an editor for BBC news, which is kinda disappointing (US news outlets are owned by the same company)

[-] belochka@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's what they are officially talking about, to reduce the amount of foreign traffic so to reduce the load on TSPU (which is the Russian alternative to China's GFW). Pretty open about it.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I'll go ahead and file that one under "Yeah, no shit lol"

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Russia has become very good in blocking all kinds of VPN and even obfuscated VPN traffic.

My Russian friend is currently using VLESS to bypass the Deep Packet Inspection and it seems very promising.

[-] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It doesn't work for the West because it relies on hiding behind CDNs like Cloudflare. If the West prohibits VPNs the governments in the West will cooperate with them.

Russia could also catch them by tracking known VPN users. The unpopular CDN urls to which they connect are very likely the VPNs. They can block those connections and observe the reaction. Russia could also just buy the VPN service and know the target servers. Like adblockers for youtube, they accept escapes for the technological advanced to prevent them from taking other actions.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

really? russia cant stop it? perhaps this is good news for the people of the world that if a nation like russia cant stop it then that might bode well for the rest of us in dire conditions where we might need it.

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago
[-] Krusty@quokk.au 0 points 1 week ago

SOCKS proxies are plentiful.... Just find one using a non-standard port and it'll likely not be detected.

[-] AloneDownUnder@quokk.au 0 points 1 week ago

I've heard about socks for obfuscation of vpn traffic, but never understood how to configure it. Is it possible to use socks with your own wireguard server, or with some free/cheap vpn?

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago
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