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Surveillance creep is once again striking in the age verification debate. This is happening at the FCC this time.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The author gives the situation benefit of the doubt that it does not deserve. It is not "mutating" or "creeping;" the ABSOLUTELY INTENTIONAL, ORIGINAL PURPOSE is simply now becoming more and more obvious, even to the people who desperately want to pretend it isn't happening.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 9 points 3 weeks ago

Damn. Who could possibly have seen this coming?

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] alpha1beta@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

pretty soon we'll see an official spec for the header X-Current-User-Social-Security-Number

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It always was going to do this.

[-] lambisio@feddit.cl 1 points 3 weeks ago

always has been.jxl

[-] MrPnut@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Of course it is

[-] aarch0x40@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Can I preorder my satellite linked shock collar?

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Whoa, so can we stop using our social security numbers for everything yet?

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

Who chose the stock image for this? I haven't seen that style of phone since I had an LG Vue back in 2009.

[-] Pappabosley@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's the phone you'll have to go back to using, to stop them identifying you. Their AI can't understand tech that old

[-] meowmeow@quokk.au -1 points 3 weeks ago

Told ya, you fucking systemd simps. It’s all a really fucking wet slope.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

~~systemd has nothing to do with this lmao, if you see this and immediately think "this wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t let systemd discuss putting an age field 2 months ago!!!!!1!" you are severely, severely misled. to stay nice.~~

nvm i’m pretty sure this is just ragebait

[-] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

"Everything that contradicts my naive worldview is just ragebait"

Sure, buddy.

[-] meowmeow@quokk.au -2 points 3 weeks ago

Hehe. The people who ignored systemd are the same people who don’t think any of this is a problem. The kind of people who can’t understand that you have to fight this kind of bullshit anytime it pops up or it eventually wins.

It just won.

[-] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm still trying to figure out how systemd has anything to do with this. Any configurable level user database could have implemented this. /etc/passwd has your "Real Name" in it as well. Finger protocol could have been selected to expose this. Literally there's dozens of different places the age thing could have been implemented. The maintainers of systemd decided to be the first. Hell, MidnightBSD just added a daemon to implement it.

Likewise if you're informed enough you also know there's a flag to explicitly block it and ways to patch it out. While I'm typically a Slackware and sysvinit type of person, there's nothing unique about systemd that enabled the shitty law California passed. And fi you really care about privacy, how about less gloat and more information about ways around it, like this fork.

You'll go a lot further educating folks how to get around the things you perceive as bad rather than whatever your original comment was. The entire point is to get people ... on your side.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence. It shows that some developers in important roles will go along with age verification. The systemd thing can be argued the way that it has been but it's the beginning of the slippery slope

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence.

It'd be weird if they added it before the laws were passed, but not that strange to implement it afterwards, but before the deadline.

[-] meowmeow@quokk.au -1 points 3 weeks ago

People already choose a side. I don’t care to change peoples minds, just mock the morons.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

i guarantee you the lawmakers who pass this kind of awful law have no idea what systemd even is or what it does

blaming it (or "systemd simps") for this is a colossal waste of time. the surveillance society has been progressively installed in the imperial core ever since 9/11, age verification and what’s it turning into is a consequence of this, and systemd adding an age field is a consequence of that.

blaming systemd for this shit, even in part, is so bafflingly silly, such a ridiculous example of swapping cause and effect that i can’t imagine you’re doing it sincerely but apparently people agree with this???

that’s like blaming the small creek in your garden for the existence of the raging river upstream. idk.

this post was submitted on 13 May 2026
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