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[-] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

5GB is plenty for emails, won't be an issue for 99% of people.

THE problem with google's storage is that they actively mislead consumers:

  1. They bother customers during setup and after with: "Do you want to backup your device?" To which a considerable amount of people react to as "Yeah ofcourse I want that!"
  2. Google does not show any indication where this backup goes or about the eventual payment so people just forget about it.
  3. After some time their gmail and photos app will start to complain: "YOUR STORAGE IS FULL" - with constant notifications. And their Gmail stops working so they can't receive emails anymore.
  4. These regular people confuse 'storage' with internal storage so they start looking for ways to expand their internal storage, which obviously doesn't do anything.
  5. Eventually they give up and either pay google the ransom or make a new email.

This is the real dark pattern behind their "free cloud"

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It is interesting. I've deleted almost all my emails from my Gmail account and it just won't go bellow 50% full. There is no way to see what is taking up the space.

My mother on the other hand has 3000+ emails and it's at like 15% full. They absolutely do this on purpose.

[-] Kite@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Did you ever use Google Photos to store your pics? That is what has my Gmail/google storage at 99% full, even though it's been over a decade since I used it and I disconnected it from all my accounts.. except apparently not. You can go through the steps to disconnect, it looks like it works, but it doesn't. I currently have an iPhone, and if I try to delete all the photos in Google Photos, it will still sync with my phone and also delete the same photos on my phone. No matter what I do, I can't severe that connection. And so I'm stuck at 99%

[-] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Are you sure you're not using anything else google related that might clog it up? That's what I'm getting at. Check google one for a breakdown.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

likely backing up to your google cloud with photos, files, essays,,,,etc.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It is honestly. My Gmail is 16 years old and I’ve only used a third of a gig.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, backing up your photos is the killer.

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[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Anyone else remember when Google bragged about never being worried about storage as you watched your storage free count, grow and grow and grow.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Remember Dont Be Evil???

Rotfl

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[-] elvith@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

TBF when Iade an account there to check it out back then, they offered about 1GB. But that was huge for the time back then

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

I remember when they offered 1GB, was at a time when I think the standard hotmail was like either 10 MB or 100 MB, and they made the announcement on april 1st.

Then did it via an invite system.

You know now that I think of it, I wonder what would have happened if google plus had used a similar playbook to that. Seems like with gmail google knew the "exclusivity" was a selling point. Facebook grew big via similar strategies (only these special college students can get it, ok a few more colleges can), meanwhile google plus was "HEY, USE GOOGLE PLUS NOW, Oh you aren't using it yet, we made your youtube account a google plus account now, so now you have an account please use it now!

While social media in general is toxic. I do feel design wise google plus was leaps and bounds ahead of facebook at the time. Circles is IMO the feature that would have made social media actually semi-useful. (IE post your video game content to gamer friends, fun activities to friends, and not putting any job risking content to bosses etc...).

[-] elvith@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Google Plus was invite only in the beginning, though

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

I think so, I don't remember how long that was. But I do distinctly remember the era where it was shoved down everyone's throat, which I have to say stuck with people far more. Telling people that they must use it, generated so much hatred for it it was insane.

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[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember the 1GB Gmail reaction? I remember:

Damn, this image can now drink alcohol in the US.

[-] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 20 points 1 week ago

Thank you Google for TURNING INTO FUCKING APPLE RIGHT AFTER I SWITCH TO A FUCKING PIXEL

[-] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

GrapheneOS is built for Google devices. Doesn't really solve the email problem though.

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

De-googling your life solves the email problem.

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[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago
  • Google is reportedly testing a 5GB storage limit for new Gmail accounts, down from the standard 15GB.
  • Users can “unlock” the full 15GB of free storage by adding a phone number to their account.

Seems they’re trying to get phone numbers this way. Maybe it’s for increased user data, maybe it’s to prevent fraudulent activity, maybe it’s to have more information to give authorities.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

phone numbers were already an almost mandatory addition to new Google accounts. You need to set up 2FA when you make a new account, and the option to use an authenticator app is so well hidden... meanwhile Google still wants your phone number "to authenticate you", even though it's less secure than storing your password on a post it on your phone.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I work with homeless people and I discovered you can no longer make email without a cell phone with any major provider. I can't get them into their social security without an email.

I was able to find an email provider that didn't require a cell phone, but then you had to use a cell phone to get past the verification on the social security site. You are absolutely fucked without a cell phone now.

[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Thats really twisted. They really want to make not owning a cell spy a crime. Every time I learn something new about Surveillance it makes me more anarchist.

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

You can try mail.com or gmx.com. They didn't require a phone when I signed up.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

To be generous, this could just be anti-botting. It sucks that bots suck up so many resources, and make things that could be free not free just to try to stop them. When you can have bots create thousands of accounts trivially, it makes sense that they need to provide some kind of identifier.

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[-] wraith@lemmy.demanufacture.org 14 points 1 week ago

The market is saturated and "don't be evil" was a long, long time ago...

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine how much of Earth's storage space is marketing emails that no one reads.

[-] webkitten@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

I sincerely and earnestly want Google to fail and cease to exist.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Except for YouTube. Spin that off first.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Probably not the place for it, but I'd be good with YouTube dying. And I'm someone who pays for YT Premium (gasp!).

Something will take it's place, something better. I think about what it would take to scale to YT's size from an infrastructure standpoint and the only thing close, I think, are porn sites.

How great would it be to have HubHomez by PornHub as a YT alternative. Need to work on the branding a bit but I don't care about the platform. I'll follow the creators to StreamyFling, a collaboration of xHamster and xvideos. Same infrastructure, different content.

C'mon porn sites. Do it. Do it.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

New users.

Even still, I moved off Gmail years ago. I keep my Google fingerprint minimal.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

I would prefer they didn't do this, but I understand. Storage isn't without cost. 5 GB is a lot for email actually. It's probably intended to reduce abuse from bots. We should probably not be using free email anyway.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Storage is incredibly cheap, though. If Google used S3, the cost for a 15GB account would be pennies a year, and since they host their own architecture it can be orders of magnitude less. This isn't about recouping costs. This is just about shaking users down for more subscription money.

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

"You have 15 GB of space as long as you're not using it all"

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[-] perishthethought@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Update: May 15, 2026 (2:57 AM ET): Google has now confirmed this test in a statement to us while giving more details regarding the feature

Next up: too many people are exporting their data at once, so now exporting your data costs extra.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure that'd be illegal under GDPR.

[-] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

THATS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE STILL USE GMAIL! Proton Mail has 1 free gb, I didn’t use it when I had the free plan.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

wtf do they need a ph# for? theyve got your email and sms ids(same as ph#). a ph# just seems like a bit of sales pitch food

[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"improve security"

isn't basically common knowledge at this point phone recovery methods decrease security? How do companies keep getting away with this.

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I'm intentionaly letting it overfill

[-] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

Pay for webmail.

Be the product.

Choose the form of the destructor.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Why not both? /s

We already see $1,500 TVs showing ads.

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[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I still have my gmail account from 2004 or so. I never delete anything, and it is where all the garbage mail goes, although I use it occasionally for purchases and other things.

So 22 years of email, never deleting anything, and I am well under 5gb.

seems that Google is testing offering only 5GB [for new accounts] free storage unless you add a phone number to your account.

iCloud accounts are 5GB if you a phone number. You don't get to create an account if you don't add a number.

I'm not defending this move. It's on the same level as them yanking their free lifetime unlimited storage on ONE accounts. But I also get it.

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