Ebola outbreak brought to you by donald trump, elon musk, and DOGE. Cut out all of USAID and ended up costing Americans more without saving any money and killed/will kill a shit load of people.
The GOP is a pedophile death cult.
Ebola outbreak brought to you by donald trump, elon musk, and DOGE. Cut out all of USAID and ended up costing Americans more without saving any money and killed/will kill a shit load of people.
The GOP is a pedophile death cult.
Cult is the correct word to use here. Even at a surface level the things trump is doing should be enough to dissuade anyone from supporting him. Yet 1/3 of the U.S. unironically would vote for him a 3rd time.
I'm sure that'll help stop the disease from spreading. Fucking idiots.
It was The Center Of Ebola! Now when the center is destroyed it will disperse, right?
ebola virus and the spread by local burial tradition been a thing for a decade now. was the prevention or mediatory unsuccessful?
i have no doubt the science works but looking back at covid and future diseases there is def a human aspect thats clearly still lacking.
It's not quite as easy as "stop kissing corpses" though. It's more like "don't go near your loved ones as they slowly die in terrible pain", which is very easy to say, but probably a LOT harder to do.
“don’t go near your loved ones as they slowly die in terrible pain”
If what they have is contagious then no. That wouldn't be very difficult at all. I don't want to slowly die in terrible pain. And i don't want to spread this slow death in terrible pain to others either. Really not that complicated.
You're speaking from a position of having knowledge and trust in the people giving that knowledge. Have a little understanding of the context here.
Ebola is endemic in the region (I think bats carry it). As a result, there will be contagion sometimes, specially more so with climate change and destruction of habitats. Until a cure is developed, we need to treat the sick and try to prevent spread. There is no easy solution to this problem, or MERS, or Hantavirus, or…. Well, you get the point.
And this isn't just a case of more exposure to the source zoonotic exposure vector thanks to climate change or humans encroaching on their habitats, this is a concerning strain that had more cases discovered in the first 48 hours than the worst previous cases of spread have at their max after weeks or months of spread. That makes these containment efforts very necessary and very smart.
I was in this region in the 90s at the height of HIV working with NIH and CDC.
None of this is surprising. There is a very common belief in witchcraft and a distrust of foreigners explaining viral transmission. People will avoid doctors and hospitals and seek churches first and local healers who claim to cure everything with herbs. It's where parts of US are heading.
For HIV, we did not anticipate that Africans in some regions have sex differently. In that culture, they practice vaginal drying prior to penetration, which led to a very high HIV transmission rate between men and women. Nothing we did to educate likely made any difference.
What exactly is vaginal drying and why does it lead to higher transmission rates?
Damn. I wish there was a way for them to sterilize the body and then hand it over to relatives. However, I'm sure just drowning the corpse in bleach first is just not an option for many reasons. What a mess.
Portable irradiator?
I feel like the ideal world would be if there could be collaboration between healthcare workers and members of a community to find a compromise solution that would allow burial practices to be preserved as much as possible, whilst also minimising risk of transmission. I imagine this might look like healthcare workers being involved in the process, rather than simply handing the body over to the family members as would happen if someone died from something other than an infectious disease. It seems like something that should be possible, in theory.
Of course, the problem is that healthcare workers and services are already stretched thin enough as it is, and I don't imagine they'd have the capacity to even consider doing something like this. I was reading the other day that Trump's cuts to things like USAID has really impacted the ability to respond to this epidemic
The problem with ebola is that it is contagious and deadly that you would be asking healthcare workers to both endanger their own lives and lives in the community by accommodating any kind of burial rights. You basically have to use impermeable ppe and have no skin exposure at all. You can get ebola just from improperly taking off your ppe, let alone handling a body that's been bleeding from everyhere possible.
I don't think that would stop the virus because I doubt the bleach would cleanse the inside. Organs, etc.
Ignorant people do stupid things.
Uneducated people do what uneducated people do. Ignorant != Not knowing better.
Uhhhh
"not knowing better" is quite literally the definition of ignorant

a health crisis that doctors are struggling to contain.
Huh? How are doctors responsible for that? They are there to treat sick people and maybe prevent outbreaks. But containing a infectious disease outbreak has to be done by the government.
That's not good, right? The whole burning the buildings thing. That's bad, right? I've seen movies.
I would just pull out and quarantine the area. It may sound heartless, but it's not worth the lives of others.
Very dumb to believe you can just let the virus spread and it won’t reach new regions. And once it spreads to non-African nations, it may find new animal hosts and become endemic in those new continents.
become endemic those to new continents.
that's the definition of pandemic.
That’s true, but most people associate that word with a mass disease outbreak (basically a synonym for plague), vs a disease that infects a small number of people in multiple places.
So we change medical terms based on most people making mistakes due to poor education?
The word encompasses both definitions. Language is about knowing word connotation. In English the word currently favors the “plague” connotation. Keep learning, though. Your English is really good.
Once it starts killing white people it will turn out the cure is not that expensive after all.
I wish that were true, but whites love to rob each other over healthcare, at least in the United States. And more and more the upper classes seek to dismantle universal healthcare in the UK and Europe.
Don't be so pessimistic. They developed vaccines for Covid real fucking fast. Of course Americans weren't that interested in vaccines but in many European countries almost everyone got one for free.
How brave of you to suggest the world should once again turns their back on the African people. Ideas like that take true courage and wisdom. You are true a visionary speaking truth "just let 'em die". They are only Congolese, not like "others" that might have actual intrinsic value.
We're not the ones storming hospitals to retrieve contaminated corpses. We're not the ones burning down treatment centers.
How do you help those that don't want to be helped? Setting up a quarantine isn't turning your back. It's doing what you can with the tools you have to save those you can.
Turning your back would be to do nothing at all, and just let them keep spreading ebola.
I mean theyre burning down the clinics. Seems like they dont want the help.
If you do that, you force people to sneak out to save their lives, and it will leak out without anyone knowing until it pops up somewhere else.
People set fire to an Ebola treatment center in a town at the heart of the outbreak in eastern Congo on Thursday after being stopped from retrieving the body of a local man, a witness and a senior police officer said, as fear and anger grow over a health crisis that doctors are struggling to contain.
I heard of a country where they're trying to burn down the entire government; even as it, too, is their only hope of survival.
A community for discussing events around the World
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF OCTOBER 19 2025
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/