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submitted 1 day ago by JoYo@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

We are in a golden era for buying and selling digital LPs. While I’ll use Bandcamp, sleek alternatives like Ampwall, Subvert, and Mirlo are equally great options. These online markets inherently incentivize artists to avoid filler or risk losing a sale, while the subscription streaming model requires artists to pad their catalog for pay per play. Streaming has revived the worst trope of the old music industry: the album that is just "two hits and a bunch of crap."

Spotify’s business model demands album filler because the platform pays out royalties based on "stream share" which trigger a payout the second a track hits the 30 second mark, incentivizing artists to maximize volume over value. This has fundamentally warped modern songwriting: albums are aggressively padded with short, two minute tracks and repetitive hooks designed specifically to feed the algorithm and inflate stream counts. On Spotify, a deep, cohesive artistic statement takes a back seat to sheer data output, turning what should be a focused LP into a bloated playlist of algorithmic bait.

Accidental hits happen way more often than you’d think. As it turns out, artists are notoriously bad at predicting their own success. When you buy a digital LP on a platform like Bandcamp, you are investing in a complete and curated piece of art where even the tracks the artist never expected to blow up exist naturally as part of a cohesive story. On subscription services like Spotify, those same happy accidents are treated like lottery tickets while surrounded by cynical, algorithm optimized filler designed just to farm streams. Buying the album ensures you are experiencing those unexpected gems as genuine creative discoveries, rather than digging through algorithmic bloat to find them.

Bandcamp serves the genre; streaming serves the algorithm. When producers target platforms like Spotify, artistic nuances like tempo variations and volume dynamics are sacrificed to strict LUFS loudness standards and predictable, club friendly danceability. This algorithmic pressure strips electronic and club music of its experimental edge, forcing tracks into a uniform, compressed sonic mold just to survive on a playlist. On Bandcamp, however, the music is freed from these rigid streaming constraints, allowing producers to prioritize raw genre authenticity and dynamic storytelling over sanitized, playlist ready optimization. Soundtrack and orchestral music have become major casualties of this shift, as their essential cinematic highs and quiet, emotional lows are flattened into a lifeless wall of sound just to meet streaming's volume requirements.

Just so we're clear, I'm not here to sell you my album. Go ahead and enjoy the whole thing ad free on my website. https://thejoyo.com/#more

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[-] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

I'd rather give an artist $14 for an LP than stream it for ten years and gove them 10¢

[-] dil@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

Don't artists make like no money off streams with the bulk being from tours and merch?

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I always used Bandcamp as mainsource to listen music of my favorite bands (if present). For general background music mostly https://www.internet-radio.com/ or https://www.radio.net/genre (genre specific channels, 24/7)

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago

Piracy enters the chat.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

Fuck the platforms you listed, we are the fediverse

https://www.funkwhale.audio/

[-] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

"Short two minute tracks and repetitive hooks"

Why are you attacking punk rock?

[-] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

Never used it.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just call it an album dude. An LP is vinyl. Digital LP, while I get it refers to a specific length... Aaaaa it feels like you're pedanting where you don't have to pedant. We get you, you're among friends and well wishers and Satan's maggoty cumfart is probably here and probably likes you too

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

Sorry, I only listen on shellac.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Wax cylinders or nothing dude. The quality can't be beat

[-] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Kansas.

How have you not seen the wizard of Oz dude go watch a movie. That's like the most famous movie.

[-] belunos@lemmus.org 4 points 18 hours ago

I met a Gen Z that never heard of or watched Ghostbuters. The kids aren't watching classics

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Gen Z's brains are too roasted by shorts to sit through an entire 90 minute movie.

[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 8 points 21 hours ago

In my experience albums I listen to today are way better all the way through than when people were buying them in store. Maybe that's just the artists I follow though. Good artists stay true to their music regardless of the payment model. If you're listening to artists that are in it to maximise their earnings, maybe you could broaden what you listen to.

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

Bandcamp is a much better experience for listening to a whole album compare to Spotify.

[-] MinFapper@startrek.website 30 points 1 day ago

So, all posts are from the perspective of people that are really into music. Enthusiasts that care deeply about individual albums and artists.

Whereas streaming services are most likely designed to cater to casual listeners like me. I can't remember the last time I listened to an entire album. I haven't liked any individual artist enough to attend a live concert. I generally listen to music while I'm doing stuff as background noise.

I used to listen to the radio for that. But streaming services algorithms were a strict upgrade to that due to lack of ads and talk show hosts.

Honestly, I don't know if I'll be able to determine whether a given piece of music is AI generated or not by listening to it.

So I don't think direct purchase of digital LPs could ever be viable for people like me. And I'm guessing (based on the success of streaming services) that there are a lot more people like me than there are enthusiasts. Yes, I can switch to the least bad streaming service according to Lemmy, out of solidarity (and no other reason). Remember 99% of people won't do that.

Just adding a perspective that might be missing from this community

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Relavent XKCD. The average layperson is unaware of so much nuance in topics others specialise in.

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[-] Kynsey@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

This is how I listen to music too. What I did is I made a bunch of massive playlists inside the services of 80s, 90s, 70s, etc music seperated by decade. Like you'd have on a radio station. Then I plugged them into Parabolic and ripped mp3s of them from youtube. Shoved them in a folder and just listen to those on shuffle. As for supporting artists, half the people I listen to are dead first of all, and for the ones who aren't I do also have a physical media collection. A single purchase of a cd or vinyl gives them more money than 1000 streams would.

[-] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago

Your plan takes 4-5 steps and more time than it takes people to just ignore ethics and open an app.

I would not count you amongst the casual audience of Spotify users. I hope that is a compliment.

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bandcamp does not permit the sale of AI generated music, "wholly or in substantial part". https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/

We'll see if they'll stick with that policy but Bandcamp hasn't really changed in the last 15 years. They could have easily increased their cut to match Spotify and Apple Music but they haven't.

If you're looking for casual consumption, https://bandcamp.com/radio offers human curated radio where the DJ puts songs into context.

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[-] arcine@jlai.lu 7 points 1 day ago

Does bandcamp have lossless high bitrate files ? I'm not 100% convinced it's always a big difference, but I'd rather always get the highest quality master I can !

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yes, in FLAC or ALAC if you want lossless compressed with metadata.

They also have PCM WAV and AIFF.

[-] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

Most people cannot discern at bitrates higher than 128kbps. Most people don't own equipment where the difference would even be noticed.

If all you're doing is listening to music on airpods using AAC, getting all wound up about Losless is silly.

See how well you do: https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality

[-] derin@lemmy.beru.co 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They do.

Edit: To be clear, they offer downloads in multiple formats - including a lossless FLAC option, and the ability to stream from your phone/browser. So, it's a pretty good replacement for Spotify if you want to actually pay the people whose music you listen to.

Bonus points if you make purchases on Bandcamp Fridays: a unique event wherein 100% of proceeds go directly to the artist (bypassing Bandcamp's usual cut).

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I upload as FLAC and they convert it to lossy for smaller files and compatibility. https://faircamp.org/ will also do the conversion for my static website.

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[-] Kynsey@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

For anyone considering switching to using mp3s on android I've found the Phocid music player best. Plus the app icon is a little weasel which is a plus. You can typically store 150 or so songs per gb depending on the length and quality. I just use syncthing to keep my phone and laptop music library synced up.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I've been using musicolet for the last I don't know and been pretty happy with it. It integrates with the cat audio pretty well

[-] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Spotify (and Pandora before that) served my purposes once upon a time to discover genres and artists I enjoy. But when I did the math, I realized I'd spent quite the pretty penny with nothing to show for it, and none of the artists I listened to were benefitting. And of course, Spotify has been happily selling my data during the interim.

Since deleting my account, I've switched to buying albums on Bandcamp, particularly on Bandcamp Fridays. I prefer listening to albums straight through anyway. I like to buy CDs when they're available, but unfortunately a lot of artists stick to vinyl if they do physical media at all. CDs don't degrade with listening, I can play them in my car, and they are compact - I simply don't have the space for vinyl.

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 2 points 19 hours ago

I love vinyls, but some of my most listened to artist don't offer them. And as you say, it's not doable to listen on the go.

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[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago

Can't abandon something I never joined in the first place! 🙂

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