We are on Lemmy.
I am obligated to not only ask that you switch to Linux (please do), but I also must suggest a distribution (Mint).
I don't make the rules.
We are on Lemmy.
I am obligated to not only ask that you switch to Linux (please do), but I also must suggest a distribution (Mint).
I don't make the rules.
I use Arch btw, so it's my job to say you should totally use Arch.
the hardest part of using Arch is the obligation to tell anyone that you use Arch. if you forget it won't boot anymore.
I haven't used raw Arch, but I have been using Garuda for a while. I'd recommend this or CachyOS rather than pure Arch for someone not used to Linux, and especially a child.
I use Nyarch, because I’m an arch user of exquisite taste, so it’s my job to say you should totally use Nyarch while I tip my fedora
Tips my fedora as a sign of respect, whilst secretly studying the blade.
He has to have windoze for school. No choice. My computer runs mint, my wife’s runs Ubuntu, and my other son runs Arch.
Praise be to our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds!
I think you mean Manjaro
They guys who keep getting their domain cert expire over and over... and over... and over?
I heard CachyOS is the new hotness now. Mine is still running Mint though, because I like it and it just works.
Idk how much Australian dollars are compared to pounds, but it seems like very good specs for the price. I got a fairly similar laptop (4080 vs 5060 would be the main difference) for about £3000 last year
£3000 is about $AUD5,600. Feeling a bit better about spending the money now
Not sure on those specific specs but on ebay you can often comfortably find ex-corporate laptops in mint condition for just 2-300 quid. Il never buy a first hand laptop after i "discovered" this trick.
Fair point. I like warranties when buy for school
for school the specs are waaaaay too overkill. You can easily get away with much much lower and cheaper specs.
But had a quick browse for similar specs on ebay, and it looks like you can get second hand for roughly a little bit more (for your specs), so overall its a reasonably good deal for the specs
Are those prices in dollaridoos or did you already do a conversion?
In dollaridoos
Seems like a good deal.
At work we buy workstation laptops for our engineers. From Dell, the exact same laptop cost $3,200 in January, $4,400 in April, and $5,900 as of mid-May.
We're just not buying them and instead shopping different brands.
The AI bubble has absolutely fucked pricing for computers.
That's a good deal for 1500 AUD. The Ryzen 7 250 might sound weak based on category alone ("two gens old", mid-midrange), but it's still a Zen4 Hawk Point 8C/16T little guy at 26-30W TDP, comes with a quite performant Radeon 780M (meaning you could game on it without the RTX, even!), and it easily goes toe to toe with the Apple M4 (regular base model, non-Pro/Max!).
What this means is that while the dedicated GPU is disabled, you should get pretty solid battery life - up to 5-6 hours I reckon - while also being able to game with slightly better performance than the Steam Deck, AND with the dedicated GPU - usually while connected to mains - you'll get proper performance around 90-120fps on high/est settings in most games.
Oh, and one more thing. You might've spent a bit more than you intended BUT you bought a more future-proof hardware at a steep discount (you spent 25% more than intended, the seller got 25% less than intended). That laptop will last you about as more in time as much more as you spent on it.
The 200 and 300 series processors are better than the new 400 series processors as they removed cores to cut costs.
The x50 hasn't seen any removed cores. Both 250 and 450 come with 8C/16T config, but the 450 has ~50% more raw performance based on benchmarks.
Except most laptop manufacturers are using the 445 which is only 2x zen 5 + 4x zen 5c.
Except that doesn't matter because we're doing model by model comparison.
"ooh, a lower end device that is marked to be lower end, did exactly that and lowered the end result"
I'm out of the loop on prices, but I can tell you Windows Home is a disaster. I've had the displeasure of having to interact with one and it was so anti-user, it still hurts to think about.
The bloatware is by default a scam. All the My Documents stuff is set to OneDrive by default, and i do mean all of it.
Copilot is on by default - that's browser, windows search and Office demos (you need a subscription to use them fully and they're all in the cloud, not really local). It will add itself to all texts created or edited with default Microsoft programs like notepad or Office. Any schoolwork done with Copilot active will possibly create problems for your kid at school.
Login is set to require an online connection by default. You literally have to set it manually so that you can login on your PC when the internet is down. Imagine my surprise when I had to reboot while offline and couldn't get past the welcome screen. We're not very welcome on our own PC anymore.
Files are encrypted by default, which sounds nice and safe, until something goes wrong. The access codes are kept in your Microsoft account, online, so if you don't have access there, you're screwed out of recovery.
File indexing is wonky, so Windows at times ends up keeping a cache or copy of everything, doubling occupied space for seemingly no reason. 100Gb gone missing for no reason, it's usually file indexing at work.
Every security-related* network request gets logged. It gets added to a specific file somewhere a Home user doesn't really have access to and needs to jump through hoops to find it. Windows 11 being telemetry hell full of spying bloatware makes a network request for location access every 5-15 minutes, which gets logged to that file. It will generate an encrypted log file that will eventually reach over 100Gb in size, similar to file indexing only more routinely, that's a bitch to get rid of. I would know.
Windows Home treats the user as a delinquent juvenile offender. It's not your PC when you have it on, but a heavily restricted and surveilled privilege that everyone but yourself can control. Get rid of it.
I have a similar Lenovo Legion 5 and paid about $1500 for it. Loved it so much I bought one for my husband and daughter, lol.
Their customer service is amazing, we had a fan die in mine and they contacted me and within a week they had a guy AT MY HOUSE fixing it right there.
Amazing.
Also upgrading the RAM is easy peasy should you need to.
So, I bought something better spec than that shortly before they fucked up the ram and storage prices for about $400usd less. All told, you got a great deal, I think? It's good hardware and I think lenovo isn't putting backdoors in the hardware anymore.
Stay strong out there friends. Even in AUD, this shouldn't be so expensive, right?
Yeah, absolutely crazy prices and based on absolute bullshit too. Can only hope the bubble bursts soon
Overkill for the use case, great deal for the price. Also will last forever with 4 battery cells.
If he is getting a gaming gpu the kid is probably a gamer
Oof. Glad I bought my rig off a friend and paid in drugs.
Yep. Unfortunately, retailers don’t accept drugs. Well, not the one I went to
Yeah it's not typically the most reliable form of transaction I'm afraid.
Remember to reinstall Windows, so you get rid of some of the bloat, if you aren’t gonna install Linux on it 😎
Great deal and it should last a while. Don’t listen to the people here recommending you uninstall windows, let your kid figure out what they want to do with it.
You can remove any 3rd party antivirus though, if it came installed. Defender is good enough.
Genuinely curious, what do you even use a laptop for when doing maths and science? UK here and I did both at A-level which is year 12/13. I don't think we really touched a computer for it, maybe the occasional pdf of an old exam paper.
I had a laptop, but it was mostly used for running a minecraft server.
typing up some essays, thats what i used family pc back a few decades ago
Essays for maths and science?
We also did English language, literature and history. Donno what school is like now but we had to do a fair number of subjects 11-16. And yes some more humanities centered ones had essays to do
Ahh if you are doing that as well then sure. Though essay writing doesn't need anything like those specs. I could write an essay on a pi zero.
Absolutely
~Okay so not sure why you posted this AFTER buying it and not asking before~
Because sometimes you can’t walk away saying “hold the deal for me, I need to do some research. “ These things happen in the moment and you need to make a decision on the spoy
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