MrBeast before 2024. Everyone seemed to be pretty enthusiastic about the guy's content and I don't recall him attracting too much drama before the Dawson situation.

Which is something I just couldn't compell. A guy who's content is so extremely materialistic became a symbol of le reddit wholesomeness. Basically all his content is just him being a feudal lord sitting on a high horse, throwing money at peasants performing humiliating acts to his amusement.

Fucking disgusting.

Gavin Newsom.

The very first time I ever saw a picture of the guy, he gave me "80s movie bad guy who wants to buy the local community center to tear it down and build a shitty hotel" vibes.

My friend group was in our late teens, we partied hard, we had each others backs... but we were so very inexperienced with the world. Then this one girl brought her new boyfriend... early thirties, soldier, fit, cool, experienced.

I had this instant dislike, his words were... too smooth, his jokes were funny, yes, but also cruel. He radiated a kind of coolness like uranium radiates poison. Everybody was all over him, the lads wanted to be like him, the lasses wanted him. I could not bring myself to like him and got accused of being jealous.

He broke up some lifelong friendships and budding relationships. He ended up getting two of the girls pregnant and went to prison because one of them was underage at the time. I feel vindicated, but I can't say I'm happy about it. The only good thing to come out of that is that I left that group and went a different way in life.

This was a while ago, but it was a Tuesday night at my bar and Cillian Murphy was there by himself, and he hung out and chatted with me for like an hour, hour and a half. I was a 20-somethiing bartender at the time- there was no one else there really, he had no reason to be nice other than he was just a nice guy. He was a 20-something superstar as well, this was after the Dark night

Me for Bill Gates and Mark Cuban, back when everyone loved them. Bill Gates was basically idolized on reddit, partaking on reddit santa and all that.

Used to work with a dude who took great delight in belittling others. He was quite Sr.

I thought I was taking crazy pills. "Oh, he's actually a sweetheart once you get to know him", "He doesn't mean to be that way". "He actually really likes me"

People were bending over backwards to defend a guy who was literally getting off on abusing his position of authority. Everyone seemed to think they were the special one who he liked and respected... they just wanted everyone else to "earn it" like they had.

It was scary! This guy had essentially formed a cult!

Anyways, our company got acquired and he was let go during HR vetting. The company doing the acquisition obviously had better due diligence then there was when this guy had been hired: sex crimes against a minor.

Everyone was shocked (STILL DEFENDING HIM). I was like "oh wow it's actually crazy how perfectly that tracks".

Not related, but I think he (Cillian Murphy) turned 50 the other day. Or so I saw somewhere on the internet.

Me for Jack Black

Talked to my therapist about this just this Friday. I have a friend, let’s call him Saul. He’s got an air about him, the way he carries himself. Good looking but not great looking, wears a certain kind of goatee that looks a little devilish. He presents as he is a gentleman, has manners, good listener, has a light touch - masculine but also effeminate in a way.

Women adore him! Like every woman I’ve ever met says she likes Saul. Not necessarily romantically, but just generally likes him and enjoys his company.

I’ve lived with this man on multiple occasions. He has caused my friends and I emotional harm. He will act overly aggressive about the smallest transgressions. I put a day bed in the common room one time, for a few weeks, and rather than approaching me about him not liking it, he demonstrated overt sex acts on it. The last time I lived with him a decade ago, he and my ex would berate me and the other roommate, in very toxic emotional ways, like in some kind of sadistic hedonist thing that they shared doing together - I think it came from them both being tortured souls from their respective upbringings. Likewise, when he didn’t get his way or the rise he wanted, he would just yell or throw things. Rather than approaching in a discussion, he’d go nuclear.

But that’s not the worst part, because it wasn’t all about what happened to me. A good friend of mine and him started dating about a decade ago. Started out great, romantic, etc. but then he started doing the same things to her, so she broke it off and moved back home. The dude, on multiple occasions, drove the two hours down the road and would just stalk her. Like follow her all damn day. Would make sure she knew he was around.

We’re older now, I see him around town. We have coffee on occasion. He seems to be doing better, got an education, and has a little business that’s woman centric that seems to be doing well.

But I won’t ever forget what I know about this man. The closet is full of skeletons, and damned if this meme wasn’t on point.

There is this one guy I know in the org I'm with who gives me these vibes. I have been extremely open about this. I will not engage with him or talk with him. Everyone seems to like him for some reason, but every red flag for me was triggered for some reason. He comes off as extremely manipulative. As petty and vindictive. As emotionally immature. As 'not safe to be around' period. I have not a shred of doubt that he would be a domestic abuser.

This happened many years ago for me. A guy at a party was giving me massive red flags. The final straw came when he outright lied to me and doubled-down on it when I asked if it was true, just to brush it off as a joke later that same day and make fun of me for believing him. I avoided him at every friend get-together afterwards.

A few years later, after I'd moved away, I learned that the rest of the friend group left him too. Turns out he had a habit of trying to hook up with teenage girls and after some event (that I never learned the details of) brought it to light, everybody abandoned him.

God, the vindication felt good.

It happened to me with many disgraced celebrities, but so far the worst one has been Leonardo DiCaprio. After The Beach, he gives me a horribly bad vibe. Strangely enough, it doesn't happen with anything he did before The Beach.

Whatever horrible thing he did that stained his soul to such a degree, it must have happened between Celebrity and the end of filming The Beach. It's as if he became 25, went to Thailand, and did something that turned him evil or something.

Narcissists tend to have a certain "charm." They know exactly how to behave to gain the approval and admiration of others, especially in a society that rewards Dark Triad traits.

When you've been a victim of narcissistic abuse, you tend to see through it. But no one believes you, and they all turn against you because they admire the narcissist, and narcissists tend to be pretty manipulative to get what they want.

This is why it infuriates me when people conflate all Cluster B disorders into one thing. Borderline Personality Disorder is more common among the victims of abuse, while narcissists tend to be the abusers and generally from privileged backgrounds.

Narcissists are infatuated with themselves, whereas people with BPD tend to hate themselves. It's two different kinds of self-obsession, with completely different causes and consequences, yet people try to treat them as if they're the same. While failing to identity narcissists, and mislabeling BPD as narcissism.

BPD traits in general are far more stigmatized, even though people with BPD are the ones who both require and deserve more compassion, understanding, and acceptance in order to recover. The treatment for NPD involves removal of the social approval they're so used to and expect; whereas the treatment for BPD requires a more affirming and validating social setting. The conflation keeps people with BPD suffering, while simultaneously enabling people with NPD to continue.

Long story short, if you've been the victim of narcissistic abuse, you're far more likely to be ostracized by society while the narcissist continue receiving approval, admiration, and promotions...

Edit: Ugh, autocorrect changed "with" to "without" so I fixed it. I hate it when my machine silently changes the entire meaning of my sentence to its exact opposite!

I have definitely been the only one in the room to realize that the person everybody likes, is a snake.

Were I the first and only person in ghe world to realize this? No, definitely not. But in that particular constellation of people in one specific room at one specific time, I was and it fucking sucked everytime it happened.

There have also been plenty of times where I was the one to figure out late that someone was shitty because I kept believing in the best of them, and that also sucks.

Can't judge people who don't catch on early to someone being a shit person.

Mr.Beast , Elon Musk , Mamdani , Jordan Peterson ,every podcast idiot out there , the aristocrat family who owns the Daily Mail

Grew up with people like that. My dad and my brothers. They're so out going and funny on the surface. Great in their element of drugs and alcohol. The moment you dig deeper they're cesspool level human beings. I'm the opposite. People usually tell me I'm so intimidating or quiet, but once they get to know me I'm a big teddy bear. That's because I got to listen to you speak first. See what type of BS comes out of your brain. What actions you take.

my brother's mom is like this. she radiates anger when things don't go her way, and it gets worse when people don't acknowledge it. you feel it in your chest.

i make a point of not acknowledging it. it's childish and it causes my brother trauma.

I hated Kevin Spacey from the start. He always looked like a creep to me, and American Beauty seemed like a blatant boast of that.

Of course, it didn't quite go the way I was thinking. But still, every time I saw people getting hyped, particularly around House of Cards, I was getting a repulsive sensation.

Yeah all the time, people are just dumb and willing to look past obvious red flags just because someone acts confident. I mean we literally have a name for those people "con man" short for "confidence man" a man who exhudes confidence while scamming people.

And yet, everyone just likes confidence even when it's an obvious narcissist pos and then two years later they're all crying to me "can you believe Geoff would do that?" And im like yeah it was pretty obvious and you guys kicked me out of your friend group so fuck you too.

My wife is like this with nearly perfect accuracy

so many YouTubers.

everyone else is shocked when it happens.

I even brought up text messages from years previous about how "they give me the ick, so I don't watch them" which is responded with, "well they got caught after you said that".

people are stupid, they believe what they want to believe. this is why I'm unsurprised that a pedophilic administration has a cult following.

I'm having this when it comes to the movie Casablanca. Everyone is like "oh, what a timeless romance", and all I see is a bromance of two guys who won't let women go to safety with their families unless they sleep with them.