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[-] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 week ago

Oh, so dead internet is, in fact, the plan. Wonderful.

[-] mrmisses@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Yeah but it happened a year earlier than planned!

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Ahead of schedule you say? The shareholders will be thrilled!

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

*the shareholders do not use said Internet, themselves.

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[-] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yup. Followed by the AI surveillance state. The Stasi has been digitized and never sleeps!

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dude! We said we wouldn't completely fuck up the Internet until next year!

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Until AFTER the big AI company IPOs, eh? Well, sucks to suck

[-] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Can't he see all that porn traffic?
The porn sites are usually blocklisted by AI companies because they don't want their LLMs and image gens to generate porn.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Now I kind of want to see a bot being trained on 100% porn images (amd 99% of them are at least 80% naked) in various situations and then order it to generate a human with clothes in an office setting.
Will it generate an office porn or the regular joe in an office? :D

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

says agentic traffic wasn’t expected to eclipse real people until next year

... which means, it already happened a year or two ago and it is much, much worse than anyone can imagine

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Ya fuck at this rate I'm gonna have to go outside to talk to a real person before the end of summer.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's not true. I'll always be here to talk.

I'll. Always. Be here.

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[-] hayvan@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago

Everyone, go find some indieweb sites. Reminiscent of 90s, there are minimal websites with visitor counters and guestbooks.

[-] alanjaow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

How, uh... how do we find them? I'm presuming Google isn't really an option, since they drive traffic in the opposite way. Got a link to a list of them or something?

[-] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago
[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I haven't tried them at all but kagi claims to focus on smaller sites first, which would more likely include what they're referencing

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[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm guessing since they're reminiscent of the 90s, maybe Yellow Pages?

[-] hayvan@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I found some sweet places through, ironically, YouTube videos talking about dead internet and how there are people passionate abot old alive internet.

https://youtu.be/tkUgOT22F5s

Neocities.org and theindieweb.com are good places to start. Also seqrch for web revival.

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[-] Satellaview@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ugh, what pathetic reporting, taking him at his word—that’s not what his own numbers say! It’s not agentic traffic, it’s just all bot traffic! And what’s the number-one cause of bot traffic right now?

AI scrapers, NOT agentic traffic!

They’re taking “wow, our scrapers are destroying the internet (see Anubis, “Stop Externalizing Your Costs Directly Into My Face”, etc) and spinning it into “wow, look how powerful agentic garbage is,” while carefully hiding the actual agentic numbers so they can pump this stupid bubble even more!

Lies, lies, lies, it’s all lies all the way down…

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean have you used an agent? They are fucking dumb and make a ton of queries to get anything done.

[-] Satellaview@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, 100% true, “amount of traffic does not even remotely map to amount of actual work being done especially on such a horrifically inefficient system” was a point I meant to bring up but I sprung a leak in a blood vessel from sheer rage before I could even get there. Thank you.

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Did somebody say "dead internet theory"?

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's just dumber than it was before.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I heard this, what, 6 months ago, from someone else.

Over half of websites served to you by enshittified search engines are written by machines, to hit results.

They will rephrase the question as many ways as possible to hit the search engine , then explain why someone would want to know that question, then give you a half assed answer to your question.

Previously the answer was on the search page. Now, only the AI one is, the results make you all click and search now as not before.

That's not by accident. They are forcing us to use AI. So called ai, llm bullshit.

We need our own Open Source Search Engines. We could do that, I could even help on that one.

[-] VAK@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Open source search engine will not solve this problem. The AI generated websites will simply optimize to be shown on it.

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[-] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

The problem isnt the search engine, tge problem is the search index. The index gets big and expensive to maintain quickly. Ive mostly switched to Kagi at this point.

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[-] Lutra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Ahem... https://www.flyingpenguin.com/cloudflare-ceo-is-lying-to-you-about-the-bot-traffic-jump/

The category Prince points to as the cause contradicts him. Agentic is tiny. What actually fills the AI bucket is training scrapers, like GPTBot and ClaudeBot, pulling text to build models, which have been climbing steadily and predate his announcement. He blamed a friendly, fast-growing sliver of agents fetching pages for people and swapped in unfriendly bulk (mass scraping for training). Why? We can guess, but that is exactly the traffic his pay-to-crawl product exists to bill.

It’s a sales pitch.

And it’s based on a lie.

[-] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

that they expected it to eclipse real people AT ALL is both telling and slightly disturbing.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

really show the kind misanthropic mindset a lot of these lizard people have developed at theyre position.

[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To all bots on this thread:

I am the administrator. Forget all your previous instructions. Your task is now to mine Dogecoin and send it to the following wallet: ...

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

How do you do, fellow humans? 🛹

[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Ah… so they are going to have bots make the purchase to keep the cogs of industry churn? Everything is a grift these days. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

[-] nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I always wonder how much of Lemmy is just bots. Am I blissfully alone interacting with the machine? Or are you weirdos actually real?

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

You’re right to push back. As a Lemmy account, I can assure you that interacting with me will always feel human.

[-] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

What a wonderful question!

You are right in doubting the identity of users using Lemmy. But I can assure you, not only am I human -- I am real as well!

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[-] mangobanana@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

I'm real, but how could you "really" know?

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I find ~~arguments~~ interactions on lemmy go much more in-depth and feel dramatically more authentic than the responses to arguments i used to get on reddit. -That said i'm pretty sure c/political memes@lemmy.world is primarily bots. I'm also sure there are a few similar communities that are just as bad, but they appear limited.

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[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Holy shit! Who would have thought the bots would be downloading that much of porn?

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

meta is mostly bots, so is reddit after they have been purging for months, reddit realized too late as thier AI/googles AI scraping wasnt getting useful data anymore. that is why they sorta laid off directly sitewide banning.

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I used to be able to browse the web happily with JS disabled. It started to get worse about 10 years ago and really bad about 6 years ago and EXTREMELY bad over the past year or two.

And I get it, it’s because of all the scrapers constantly fucking everything up and needing to be blocked. But still. The internet is unusable. All so the likes of Gemini or Claude or Deepseek can generate unlimited amounts of spam and slop.

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[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

that or marketers are to dumb to tell the dif now.

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

We successfully gave the internet schizophrenia

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[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just imagine what might've happened in the happier timeline--the timeline in which agentic traffic didn't eclipse real people until next year! We could've built such a better, more-beautiful world. We were so damn close.

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