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submitted 1 year ago by Evolone@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

As title says, once Valve announced the OLED deck, I saw the refurbished originals go on a deep discount and figured it was time to buy in. So I ordered a refurb 512GB and I’m so excited for it to arrive! Been in a gaming rut for a long time now and, having never been a PC gamer, I’m look forward to checking out a bunch of games I’ve never played before.

What tips do you have for a first time Deck owner?

Any essential games I should be sure to get?

And finally, is it possible to get games I own on the Epic Games Store (I collected all their free games over the years) or Xbox Game Pass PC games on my Steam Deck?

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[-] chloyster@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago

If you are comfortable tinkering a bit, I'd recommend checking out the Decky loader This tool adds the ability to get a lot of different plugins for your steam deck, from changing the home theme, to editing fan controls. There are a lot of tools here.

If you want to emulate, emudeck is another great tool. It'll set up a bunch of stuff for you and download emulators and set them up with good configurations for steam deck. I also believe if you do this, it will set up decky loader for you (don't quote me on that, it's been a while since I set it up)

For epic game store games, id recommend checking out Heroic launcher. It's an open source launcher that connects to gog and epic games accounts and lets you download and play games you own on those stores. Another option is The non steam launcher tool on GitHub. This allows downloading a bunch of various launchers, including epic.

As for Xbox game pass, the situation is less ideal. If you have gamepass ultimate, you can utilize Xbox cloud gaming to play your gamepass games. This article is by Microsoft to set up cloud gaming on your deck. If you want to play then natively, you'll need to dual boot your steam deck to have a windows partition. I have personally never done this, but I have friends who have, and it works well for them.

[-] singularity@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

For Xbox cloud gaming I'd recommend the greenlight application: https://github.com/unknownskl/greenlight

It works for both local streaming from an Xbox as well as cloud gaming.

[-] chloyster@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Oh this looks really slick. I haven't done much Xbox stuff in my steam deck so this wasn't on my radar. Thanks!

[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 6 points 1 year ago

I love this comment. I don't have a deck, but I saved it. Thank you so much <3

[-] chloyster@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Aww. Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😊

[-] oldGregg@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Don't get it wet. And don't feed it after midnight.

[-] AingealDash@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

And no bright lights.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

But then I get a bunch of free steam decks, and surely they will be just as cute and cuddly, right?

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Ooh - I had never considered these tips!

[-] grooving@lemmy.studio 17 points 1 year ago

Don't install windows on it too, unless you REALLY need to. Just use the Linux desktop environment it comes with and find Linux programs that will meet your needs. It can not edit videos over 1 minute long without really chugging. It works great as a music daw though if that's your thing.

Adding windows to the mix makes it less stable, and you'll need to do a special sequence of buttons every time you boot.

+If you do some edgecase tinkering, you may loose your work when it updates.

That being said, I love this aspect of the device and have Windows booted on it. I treat the instability like a fun puzzle. You gotta be into that if your going to do it. +learning Linux stuff is good nerdy fun.

The best tip I have though, is if you are into fps. Use the right trackpad to aim, set it up so 1 swipe from left to right rotated you 180 degrees and set up the LEFT trigger to fire. It's a little backwards feeling, but once you get it, you'll never go back. Took me a year before I could comfortably play fps on it. Then I learned that secret and finished the master chief collection with it. There are vids out there to explain it more thoroughly.

Last tip. Smelling the fan exhaust is absolutely worth the health risk 👍

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I wonder if refurbs vent smell are as fresh as new

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I treat the instability like a fun puzzle.

This is how I view my dating life now.

[-] grooving@lemmy.studio 2 points 1 year ago

That's what happens when you stick your deck in crazy.... Always dock responsibly.

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for sharing the details about dual booting windows. I was wondering if it's possible to have Bootcamp like setup (Mac's had this before their Apple Silicon machines) wherein you select in the OS you've booted into to restart in the other OS? So like Windows System Tray would have Bootcamp thingy which has "Restart to Mac" and Mac had a setting where you select the boot volume to Windows. That can make the fun puzzle a bit less fun but probably more ergonomic.

[-] Plume@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Some tips.

• Always do your research about a game, always check what people are saying on the website ProtonDB before you buy it. Do not trust the rating system. We've had too many cases of game being labeled as verified that couldn't even reach 30 FPS.

Do not install Windows on it. Just don't. You got a Steam Deck. Not a Ayaneo, not a ROG ALLY. You got a Steam Deck. The strength of this machine is entirely in its software. It's why in my opinion there has never been any real competition to the Steam Deck as most of these rely on Windows which is awful and not made for this purpose at all.

• If you ever get a dock and plug it in your TV, do not change the resolution of the game. Let it run at 720p. The upscaler will do its job. Just turn on FSR in the Steam Deck setting for the game with the free dots button (or Xbox + B, if you are using an Xbox Controller). In my experience, you tend to get quite good results, and I'm doing it on a 4K TV.

• The case that the Deck that comes with is amazing, but it's a bit fat. It may be an issue if you plan on taking it with you on trips or whatever. So here's a good alternative made by the company TomToc. I have one, and I love it. It's thinner and will fit into more backpacks while taking less space. However, know that if you're using a case around your Steam Deck, like let's say you got a Killswitch from Dbrand, it won't fit. Also, if you pick this up, don't throw the original carrying case away. Keep it, you never know.

• I never really cared for emulation in the past. However, EmuDeck is the shit. It is so good, so stupidly easy to set up. You can't pass on it. It's a must have. If you grew up on consoles, it's a great way to revisit the past and also a great way to play older games which got stuck on their consoles generation, forever lost to time and eBay scalpers.

Some games.

As for good games to get you started on the Steam Deck, first:

Aperture Desk Job is an absoute must. I am pretty sure it should be included with the Steam Deck, but I don't remember if it was, but it's a free, short, and unique game made by Valve specifically for this machine. It will show you everything this machine can do and familiarize yourself with every aspect of controls from the small trackpads to the gyro controls.

• If you want good examples of good optimization, I strongly recommend you get the Spider-Man game by Insomniac. I will also strongly recommend you to buy its "sequel" (it's more of an expansion standalone game), Miles Morales, which to me, while shorter, improves on basically every aspect of the base game.

• The Steam Deck is also perfect for playing older games which you may have never got around the playing. I played BioShock on it for the first time this year entirely on the Steam Deck from beginning to end. It can feel a bit dated here and there, but I can also tell you that its reputation is well earned.

• Speaking of all the games you'd never played before, I doubt you haven't played them. For some reason I feel like you probably did, but if you haven't, I strongly recommend you to play the entirety of the Half-Life 2 Trilogy on this thing. It's been optimized for it with new menus and everything.

A Short Hike is as short as it sounds like, but it is a really memorable title. It's relaxing, it's hilarious and it's simply adorable. It's a gem.

Terraria may not look like it at first, but it is surprisingly well optimized for the Steam Deck. It's amazing, and if you haven't played it, you will probably figure out eventually why this game has such a cult following. There are really good reasons as to why this is one of the highest-rated games on Steam.

Vampire Survivor. Because of course. I feel like at this point, it's practically illegal to own a Steam Deck and not have this game on it.

Reventure is a fun and creative title. I honestly don't have much to say about it. It's really fun, really creative, really cheap. Quite funny. I loved it, and I can only recommend it. Don't try and look up guides for this game. That would be ruining the fun.

• I haven't finished it. But Spiritfarer It is a beautiful game, not only visually, but in its theme too. It's a game about death and moving on from past traumas. It's emotional, it's funny, it's creative, it's just full of heart. I can promise that you will get attached to every character, but I can guarantee you that you will get attached to some, and that you will promise yourself that you won't cry, but you fucking will! And you will love it.

• There is nothing quite like The Long Dark. You may believe you played survival games before, but this one is entirely different. I cannot recommend this enough. You really have to play it to get it. In a sea of bad and generic survival games, this one stands out as being serene to the point of being therapeutic while also being able to be ruthless and terrifying. This game isn't particularly hard to run, but however, it doesn't seem to like the Steam Deck very much? The frame rate is oddly unstable so I would recommend you to lock it at 30, then it won't move at all it will be perfectly locked. It's an issue that needs fixing.


I will conclude with this, the Steam Deck is not your PC with a 4090 in it. This is a low powered handheld machine. If I were you, I wouldn't expect it to be reliable when it comes to newer AAA games. And that's not only due to the power these game demands, but also to the absolutely dog shit optimization we seem to get with them nowadays.

I found that the Steam Deck is a perfect machine for me to expand my horizons. So my final recommendation would be for you to look towards indie games in general. These will be the best for the Steam Deck, but you may also find that these will be the best in general.

Have fun! :3

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much for your detailed suggestions and recommendations! I am very excited to get my hands on my Deck and start playing. My wishlist has only grown and grown.

Speaking of Spider-man: I actually played through that when it first came out on PS4, but I've been itching to get back into it - and the Miles Morales game seems really cool!

[-] Plume@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

If you haven't played Miles, then skip the original on the Steam Deck and go straight for that one. It's shorter and denser, but also, I think it improves on everything the first game did.

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

For Epic Games, I'd also recommend Heroic. You can download it from the Discover Software Center in Desktop Mode.

Some quick tips:

  • If you need to bring up a keyboard for whatever reason, you can hold the STEAM button, and press X.
  • Expect to tinker and play around with things, I think the software is still a bit new and rough around the edges.
  • Search the Discover Software Center for software in general; it's a good place to download things like browsers and applications.
  • If you want to know if a game runs or not, you can check https://www.protondb.com , it's a crowdsourced version of Valve's "Steam Deck Verified", where people say how well games work.

Some game recommendations, based on ones I've played. Not had a chance to try them all on the Steam deck, but they should work:

  • Stardew Valley
  • Baba is You
  • Celeste
  • Cuphead
  • Dicey Dungeons
  • Slay the Spire (Think you have to use the touch screen though)
  • Sonic Mania
  • Wargroove
  • Zeepkist
  • The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
  • Hades
  • Pizza Tower
  • Tunic
  • Return of the Obra Dinn
  • Demon's Tilt
[-] Chimaeratorian@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Just because a game says it won't work on Deck doesn't mean it is true. They just haven't tested thousands of games to verify compatibility. Sometimes it is as easy as getting and selecting a very specific Proton version, but other more involved fixes may be necessary. When in doubt, search "[game] + Steam Deck" to see if someone else has tried and succeeded (or failed).

[-] slowbyrne@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Check out protondb.com/ to see how compatible a game is with the deck (and Linux in general). The comments will usually have suggestions for getting the game to run well.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is great to know! Especially coming into this system with very little knowledge of how things work, or how to "optimize" games.

[-] donio@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For Steam in general: If you are not in a major hurry to get a game wait for sales. There are major sales a few times a year and smaller ones all the time. Add games to your Steam wishlist to get notified when it's on sale. Check steamdb for price trends.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I've added over 100 games to my wishlist since ordering my SD....can't wait to build up my library!

[-] Sidyctism@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely this. I only buy games at summer or winter sale, spent 20-25 bucks and get enough games to tide me over till the next sale

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Good recommendations so I'll just add some specifics.

For whatever emulation route you choose, I recommend using a separate SD card just for emulation. Makes it really easy to just get it set up on an SD card, the games appear and they are ready. No SD card, no emulation finagling. Keeps your ROMs off main deck storage which even 512gb fills up fast.

I like emudeck, some don't, ymmv.

I don't think I saw SSH recommended. I use FileZilla to transfer files between my PC and steam deck - handy for emulation files, small-medium sized games. It makes the process of transferring and setup so much easier. I like FZ cause once it's set up there's a quick connect so you don't have to remember the details.

Hardware accessory: I highly recommend the Deckmate, it's basically a VESA mount for the Deck. I attached a battery pack, mini dock, and have mounted the Deck to VESA stands. Seriously, it's worth it.

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

+1 for SSH and FileZilla (or WinSCP)

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The suggestion on keeping a separate SD card just for emulation is great! I have an extra SD card, ready to do this. Do I just need to install EmuDeck (on the SD card itself) and then add ROMs to it and it's that easy?

Also, as a follow-up question: do you know if using FileZilla/SSH is possible to transfer files between a Macbook and Steam Deck? I have a PC, but it is admin-locked via my work. But I'm trying to figure out the best way to use my personal Macbook to do file management with Steam Deck.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed it's that easy! Pop in the blank SD card, run emudeck setup and just make sure you select the SD card and not internal storage (it has a clear popup, hard to miss).

I believe FileZilla does have a Mac client, so it should work just fine for you! I just remembered though, don't get confused with FileZilla Server, I think that's unrelated for our needs.

FWIW, regular old SSH can to FTP/SFTP (internet file transfer, I just like having a good GUI.

Enjoy!

[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 1 year ago

Install all the emulators you can. Learn how to emulate. It's so much fun to play older games that you might've missed out on in the past.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Any recommendations? I never owned a Gamecube and am looking forward to a bunch of those games; as well as replaying a bunch of old PS2 and PS3 games!

[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 1 year ago

Use dolphin for gamecube. PCSX2 for PS2 games and RPCS3 for PS3 games. And for games, check out "nopaystation" it's the best for PSX games. There are other amazing sites. Just search it.

[-] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Enable SSH access (but make sure it only accepts key-based logins - password based on a mobile device that might operate in untrusted networks is a bad idea).

If you enable SSH, you can transfer files from the PC over WLAN. (If you are on Windows: FileZilla is your friend.) Also, you can remote access the Steam Deck command line via SSH. (If you are on Windows: PuTTY is your friend.) That's way less annoying than having to type longer texts (think: script files to launch emulators) with the on-screen keyboard.

Oh, and if you are into Retro Gaming, my small guide on how to add DOS games to the steam library and get MIDI working for them might be worth a look.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I know next to nothing about PC utilization. I’ve mainly been a Mac user, but am familiar with PCs from using one at work. It’s not really admin locked so u typically can use it for personal things; but I admit that I don’t really know anything about SSH access or transferring files via FileZilla.

Is there a good guide somewhere that explains how to do this?

[-] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

There are plenty on the web (for instance on handheld.quest), but I haven't found a single one that contains all details...


So, I'll just try to sum up the details here:

First things first: SSH stands for Secure Shell, and is basically an encrypted remote command line, but it offers much more features than just a command line, including, but not limited to, file transfer. The file transfer feature is also known as sftp, and generally considered to be the successor of the more well known ftp protocol.

The very first thing I would do on the Steam Deck would be to set a host name in the settings, such that you don't need to use the IP address to address it over the network. Screenshot (I totally haven't just found by googling).

The Steam Deck comes with an SSH server pre-installed, you need to enable it though. The following steps need to be done on a terminal, in desktop mode. The terminal that's installed on the Steam Deck is called "Konsole" (if I remember correctly). Once you have a terminal running on Desktop Mode, you can enable the SSH server via the following steps (I'll link the help for all commands I mention, so that you can verify that I'm not trying to trick you into doing something bad):

  • First you need to get administrator ("root") access to the Steam Deck, what can be done by setting a password for the default user. Don't worry, the Steam Deck won't start asking for a password on startup, it's just required in order to get admin access. The command to set/change the current user's password is simply passwd. While typing the password, there won't be any feedback on the screen. This is normal.
  • Once the password has been set, you can use the sudo command to run other commands as administrator. sudo will ask you to confirm your identity by entering the password.
  • To start the SSH server, you can use sudo systemctl start sshd. Help files: systemctl, sshd
  • To stop the SSH server again, you can use sudo systemctl stop sshd.
  • To enable autostart for the SSH server, sudo systemctl enable sshd (but I would not recommend this unless you disable password based logins - see below)
  • To disable autostart for the SSH server, sudo systemctl disable sshd

On the PC from which you want to connect to the Deck you will need some kind of sftp client. On Linux most file managers have sftp functionality built-in. On Windows and MacOS one needs a special program for this though (afaik). There are many, many alternatives here (just search "sftp client" in your search engine of choice), but the most well known one is FileZilla, which works on Windows, macOS, Linux and many other operating systems. I recommend FileZilla for two reasons. The first is that it's open source (and free of charge), the second one is that I personally like it as a tool. At work I (have to) use Windows, and whenever I have to transfer files to a remote system like our webservers, our contractor's cloud storage, or simply to copy a few music files from my phone to the office PC (yes, I am this old), FileZilla is the go-to solution for me.

If you have started the SSH server on the deck, you should now be able to access its contents via sftp. The default user on the Steam Deck is called deck, the password is the one you set earlier using the passwd command. If you are lost using FileZilla, there's a user's guide online.

Now, as promised, a few words on security and autostarting the SSH server. If you plan on auto-starting the SSH server on the Steam Deck, I would recommend to set up a means to connect to it without a password, and then to disable password-based SSH connections. The reason is that the Steam Deck, as a mobile device, will quite likely end up in insecure or otherwise untrusted wireless networks, and passwords are really not the most secure way of user authentication... Since SSH is a full remote access protocol, anyone who guesses your password and can reach the deck over the network could do anything on it. Given that the deck's battery runtime is already short enough even if there is no bitcoin miner running in the background, you probably don't want password based logins via SSH enabled permanently.

That's where Public-key authentication comes in. You can configure the SSH server to allow users to connect without a password, if the users have access to a private key for which the corresponding public key is known to the server. To enable this, all you need to do is to create a public/private SSH key pair, and upload the public key to the SSH server on the Steam Deck. The exact process of creating those keys is again depending on the operating system. Here's a guide about SSH key generation that includes instructions for macOS and Windows. On macOS or Linux the instructions are actually identical. You just need to open a terminal, and, if they don't exist for your user yet, run ssh-keygen to create the keys. Then you can use ssh-copy-id to upload the public key to the Steam Deck. Once that is done, if your system uses ssh-agent, connecting via public key should "just work" - also in FileZilla. If you don't use ssh-agent, you can try these steps in FileZilla.

Once you have confirmed that passwordless public-key logins are working, you can edit the file /etc/ssh/sshd.conf on the steam deck. You'll need admin access, so the easiest way to do that is probably to run sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd.conf on a terminal (nano help). The relevant change is to replace the line #PasswordAuthentication yes by PasswordAuthentication no (here's the help file for sshd.conf). In order to apply these changes, you probably need to restart the SSH server: sudo systemctl restart sshd.

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going to make a recommendation for pretty much all the metroidvanias, the deck was practically built for them. The Castlevania Advance collection has three great old games, including Aria of Sorrow, which was the progenitor of Bloodstained (which might honestly have a little too much going on - if you feel like you'd enjoy a simplified version of that, Aria is your game.)

But also do remember to pick up Hollow Knight. And Blasphemous. And if you're emulating, Metroid fusion, Zero Mission, Metroid prime even, if you feel like frigging around with the GC emus.

Also, Soulslike games play particularly well on deck. I can get a pretty stable 30 out of Elden Ring, I'm sure the older titles work pretty well too.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I definitely am looking forward to doing a HK replay on the Deck. Super interested in getting into emulation too…but a bit nervous to dip my toes into it. Having never been a PC user I’m not super well versed in using them and installing extra stuff on devices like the Deck.

Also: Elden Ring is going to be my day one buy. Been waiting to play this one and can’t wait!

[-] Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A few tips I haven't seen anyone bring up yet:

– If you see a game on sale, it will be on sale again. Don't get baited into buying something you won't actually play for years.

– Please oh please learn to use the Deck's quick menu performance options. When people complain about the Deck's battery life, what they forget is that unlike a Nintendo Switch, it'll just treat everything like it's "docked" unless you tell it otherwise. It'll munch through that battery as quick as you let it, so extending it is your responsibility. The easiest way to do that is to just set a power limit (even the max of 15 watts will help) if a game is running fine. A lot of basic 2d games get by just fine on 3 or 5. Half-rate shading is the other major option. Basically it'll render some things at half of their normal resolution, sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it isn't noticable on the Deck's screen. With 3D stuff, get the performance overlay up and start dropping the the wattage if the framerate is high enough, or the game's video settings if it's not. Ideally just drop both, that's how you'll really save the battery. I just drop a lot of games right to "low" settings unless it looks really awful and go from there.

– In a similar vein, framerate limits!! Console games are nearly always locked to 30 or 60 frames per second for all sorts of reasons. In the Deck's case you're again thinking about battery life. While you can sometimes argue for framerates higher than a screen's refresh rate, on the Deck it's not really justifiable, there's no good reason to pass 60. Some games play just fine at 30 so lock it to 30 if you can tolerate it. Or, the Deck's secret weapon... 40fps. Normally you'd never do that, because it doesn't line up with the screen and things get weird, but the Deck's screen can actually just drop to 40hz to compensate. Due to some odd math 40fps is actually much closer to 60 than 30 in practice while still saving a lot of battery life.
BUT... BUT BUT BUT, the Deck's system-wide framerate limiter has problems. Input lag problems. Hopefully you don't notice and don't give a shit but if you do, oh god, so much input lag. Thankfully the vast majority of games have their own 60fps locks that don't have this problem (to the same extent) but for the 40hz thing you need to just deal with it.

[-] Evolone@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is very helpful!! I’m feeling a lot of FOMO pressure what with the Steam Autumn sale going on right now. There are so many games I have always wanted to play but never had a chance to…and now I can play them all at my fingertips! (For example: Halo: MCC, the Fallout series, and Persona 5). I’m tempted to snag MCC and Fallout 76, or New Vegas, because those prices are awesome.

Can you expand more on the Deck’s quick menu performance options? I’ve already learned about “the Golden 40”, and have locked most if not all of my games to 40fps…but what other “quick menu performance” options should I be sure to optimize?

this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
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