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Methamphetamines
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I like that the sign says "will" kill you, not "could".
If it said “could”, most people would think “probably not me, though”.
Exactly.
Local anesthetics with vasoconstrictors should be used with care in patients taking methamphetamine because they may result in cardiac dysrhythmias, myocardial infarction, and cerebrovascular accident.
Dang.
For some reason "cerebrovascular accident" sounds so funny to me, it's like "uh oh, seems like my brainy-veiny did an oopsie-whoopsie".
We don't make mistakes, we just have happy accidents
A minor infarction.
What about aderall and vyvanse?
I had to be put under with local anaesthesia for a septoplasty and they said I couldn't take Vyvanse. I wasn't going to anyway, it increases your blood pressure. But still good that they tell you.
I’m happy the other person hasn’t had issues, but my dentist called me to let me know they couldn’t put me under because of my prescription… which is Adderall and Vyvanse.
May have just been the Adderall, maybe it was both, but I don’t like going under anyway and was going to use local anesthesia, regardless.
Adderall and Vyvanse are essentially the same drug. You're on both?
They are related drugs with similar profiles, but they are not the same drug. Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine, which is a pro-drug, that your body converts into dextroamphetamine. This can have a big impact on some people, either making the drugs more or less tolerable. Actual metabolic rates for drugs can be significantly different from person to person.
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Yup. Adderall alone was too much, Vyvanse alone was too little. A max dosage of one and a smidge if the other during the middle of the day if needed?
Just right.
Edit: to go with what the other person said - my metabolism is really fast and I typically run “hot.”
Interesting approach. I myself use a non -stimulant (atomoxetine) daily with a supplement of Adderall as needed
I've been put under multiple times and am on vyvanse, no one has ever said anything to me about it and I've never had issues.
I can't say that I've ever had it raise my blood pressure, either, like @thedrivingcrooner (no idea if I did that mention right) said they were told, but I have excruciatingly low blood pressure normally so it's possible the doctors just didn't consider it a potential issue in my case. I wish it would raise my blood pressure lol.
I had the same thought. I always disclose my meds first, but if you're taking them but not prescribed I'd still tell them.
Kill You with a capital "K"
We call it “ice” in Australia 😝 random trivia
(and China)
There was a girl in my sixth grade class named Yaba and I never thought "well she looks like a tall pile of crystal meth"
Good thing I only use Ice
I wonder about other amphetamines. Because there's some things you can take turn into amphetamines when your body processes them, IIRC. There are also medications that are in the same family. I suspect that while people do usually tell their dentist what medications they're taking when prompted, some people are kind of flaky and forget, while other people might have a reason in their head not to. But, not everybody thinks to disclose stuff like "supplements" which are unregulated, variably legal, and could also pose a health risk if they qualify for this particular scenario. Good of them to tell people that though. I never knew that and I've gotten lots of dental work done, although, I've never done hard drugs.
I know this isn't what you meant, but I choose to read this as you calling meth a "supplement"
It's a nootropic, bro
Hell, they still prescribe meth in some instances. It's called Desoxyn. Adderall, a drug so commonly used right now there's a shortage (or was, very recently), is a strong amphetamine. They're used for a quite a lot medically, and all have similar effects on the body by definition.
The issue at play here is amphetamines are doing a number on vasoconstriction and heart contractility, which then boosts heart rate and BP. This increases the chance of all that fun stuff like ischemic/hemorrhagic stroke, heart attack, or a dangerous dysrhythmia. When you add in anesthesia that has similar effects (vasoconstriction), you massively increase the odds of a complication. Thats without considering the already existing damage likely present in those abusing drugs of this sort.
Not a lot of people realise that the lidocaine you get at the dentists also contains epinephrine to make it last long. Which can play merry hell with your blood pressure. I can't have epinephrine for other medical reasons besides the way it messes with your blood pressure and honestly I prefer it, I'm numb long enough to do the surgery and it's all gone in half an hour or so instead of a numb face for half the day.
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I always mention vitamins and stuff, just in case. No matter what, I will not lie to my doctor in any situation, it's one of my rules of life
Wow, I guess you know what part of the city you're in when you have that appointment with this dentist.
It's a fairly standard thing for dentists to advertise, at least where I am. I've been to multiple dentists that had similar signs or very prominent warnings on the paperwork you sign in the waiting room. These were all suburban dentists.
Wow! I have been absent from the United States for a long time (I'm assuming this is from the USA, where I'm from). What a thing! I had no idea this was typical back home. I guess it's a good thing. I mean, it prevents death, right?
Prescribed medications in the same class have the same side effect.
Ah! I get it, then. I guess I was reading this poster as a kind of warning to recreational drug users because I didn't put my pharmacology hat on. Thanks for the clarification. The more I interact with people on this thread, the more I see how it makes sense to post warnings like this.
It's specific to certain parts of the USA. Probably parts of California and Alabama, if I had to guess. The USA is very big and very diverse, which you know because you're from there, so to suggest it's a USA thing is oddly qualified.
Where I live, I've never seen this. Does meth exist around here? Sure. Is it rampant? No. We do heroin round these parts, and we die from the fentanyl in it.
I wasn't referring to the posting of the sign as a practice, I was referring to the photo, meaning that I assume that the photo was taken in the USA. Yes, I am originally from the USA. Maine, to be exact. I haven't been back home in about ten years. Anyway, I was referring to the place where the photo was taken, not the local customs.
Better to have that sign up, I guess, than to have a corpse rolled through your lobby.
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