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[-] teft@startrek.website 134 points 11 months ago

Hand starts shaking when he can't update once an hour.

[-] ritchie@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago
[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Knees weak, as update not ready.

[-] teft@startrek.website 17 points 11 months ago

There's vomit in this cron job already

[-] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 11 months ago
[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

He's nervous. But on the surface he looks calm and ready to retry.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I started my Linux journey in the 90's with Red Hat Halloween. I'm sick and tired of troubleshooting and Debian based distros have been fully painless. Those of you learning your craft should absolutely try to manage things like Arch, just leave my old and tired ass be and I'll sit here with my old kernel and cheer you on.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yup - if your goal is to use Linux to learn how Linux works and how it's all put together then Arch is awesome. If you've got stuff to do and Linux is a tool to reach another goal, not so much. I like my tools to be stable, reliable and predictable.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Whenever you get bored:

~$ sudo docker run -it --rm archlinux bash
[root@5452124778b3 /]# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core downloading...
 extra downloading...
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Its easier to use distrobox with podman

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

Could be. I know docker and this looked like a nail.

[-] anonono@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

this coming from someone who used podman for years for hours for development every day.

podman is cancer, it's way better to use docker rootless.

podman will break if you sneeze at it, and the only recourse you will find in github is to podman system reset which stinks of bad programming.

docker rootless never breaks, podman may die if you cancel a download because the devs were either inexperienced or bad and instead of protecting the state with atomic filesystem operations they leave dirty files in working directories which make it fail in random and unexpected ways.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

I've personally only had good experiences with podman

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Wait...is that all it takes to install arch in a docker container? Does this include a GUI or is it for terminal Haxxorz only?

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Terminal only. Though in theory you should be able to expose a port to access an X or Wayland session remotely to use a GUI, but I haven't tried this.

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You're basically describing DistroBox, which does exactly that. It's amazing.

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[-] aard@kyu.de 40 points 11 months ago

There's the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 28 points 11 months ago

All of which are quite stable.

[-] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Stable in the distro context refers to how often packages change. Sid (which is the one that's broken in that) is not that. The other 2 are stable in that sense, but older software can sometimes be shaky on newer hardware.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

broken saying

FTFY

[-] bazzett@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I really like Debian, but for some reason my not-new-laptop didn't liked it. Issues with suspend, the WiFi and the NVME drive made me to nuke it last Wednesday and in its place I installed Fedora, which seems to play better with the hardware. At least I don't have problems with it in my desktop.

[-] ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you're running Debian stable, your hardware was probably too new for the kernel. Unless they changed their development paradigm when I last ran it, stable is always 2-3 years behind mainline Linux software aside from security patches. It's one of the key reasons why it's so stable.

See the Don't Suffer from Shiny Stuff Syndrome on the official wiki.

[-] bazzett@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I mean, my laptop is a Dell from 2018-2019 with a 8th gen Core i5, so I don't think is too "new" 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

That's surprising. Dell should have good Linux driver support, seeing as they offer Ubuntu pre-installed in some markets.

Saying that, we have work issued Dell Precision mobile workstations and there are constantly hardware and driver issues under Windows, where you'd expect things to work just fine...

  • the internal microphone not working (handy for meetings!)
  • the 3.5mm combo jack not working (ah, great, no backup for when the internal microphone stops working)
  • the battery handshake failing, causing the machine to not charge, stay stuck in a low performance mode, and constantly pop up Windows notifications saying the battery is not genuine
  • the presence sensor locking the laptop while you're literally working it

Now I use a USB headset, disabled the presence sensor, and reboot the laptop repeatedly until the battery is detected as genuine

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Go to debian-testing. Your dayli updates are back too

[-] bazzett@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Been there, done that. It wasn't a bad experience, but also not a good one.

[-] lodaket@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

A testing/sid hybrid is awesome on my hardware. These guides are pretty useful for keeping things sane:

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 11 months ago

Can I talk about our lord and saviour, NixOS, in these parts?

[-] blotz@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I've tried nix and its just not it. Its got cool ideas tho!

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Well, Debian Sid is rolling-release if that's your liking

[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As a Debian user I agree with Loius Rossmann's sage advice.

Edit: (make sure you enable unattended security upgrades at least so you can pretend that you only update once every few months)

[-] NoXzema@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For those missing context, Rossman uses a software that helps view the layout of Mac hardware... and it breaks literally constantly.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That made me laugh at my work desk ty

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago
[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Freebsd be like: where getopt

[-] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Specifically, OpenBasedSecureDistro, with a desktop environment, for gaming

Please send help, thanks

[-] callyral@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago

i use void linux and apparently it is a stable rolling release

[-] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah and I'm a small-headed Arch user

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Use MX Linux instead, it's all the power of Debian with up to date everything.

[-] Lime66@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It is? I don't see a mention of that on there website

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, I have kernel 6.5.10, latest Firefox (in .deb) etc

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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you me?) P.s been daily driving arch for 5 years and now switching back to Debian

[-] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Never had any issues with Arch

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