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Environmental campaigners have called on the government to learn from its own successes after official figures showed the use of single-use supermarket plastic bags had fallen 98% since retailers in England began charging for them in 2015.

Annual distribution of plastic carrier bags by seven leading grocery chains plummeted from 7.6bn in 2014 to 133m last year, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said on Monday.

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[-] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 year ago

Reminder that the biggest by far source of micro plastic in the air we breathe comes from tires. And there is zero research being done to find an alternative

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] solivine@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for providing the article, was an interesting read

[-] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah but synthetic textile is very broad and can be many products across different industries. A tire is an end product and if you find an alternative for that, you knock off the most contributing product of micro plastic.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

We already have a way to solve this, just don't drive so much.

[-] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Metal tires and metal roads. Kind of slippery, so we might need to make some sort of ridges to guide our vehicle's direction. Stopping will still be hard, but if we just lock cars together and do it all at once it might be feasible.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Damn u had me confused till the last line. Well played.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

When the petrol car ban comes in, this could take care of itself as everybody finds themselves priced out of driving.

We'll need a really good public transport system to replace it, but we won't get that either because we're too poor to care about.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are already priced out of driving. We need to be building that public transport network, along with active transport infrastructure and better land use anyway.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

With petrol you can always get a £500 banger, run it into the ground over the next year or two and repeat.

With electric it starts at about 5000-6000, and you'll be paying £500 a year just to rent the battery. It's the batteries that are going to keep that out of reach of the poorest.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

And you still need insurance, fuel etc on top of that, and your £500 banger isn't going to be very reliable.

You can get a decent bike for £50 or a bus ticket for £2. The problem is in a lot of the country it isn't safe to cycle and the buses are shit, so we need to fix those things to have transport that works for everyone (and doesn't create microplastics).

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[-] midgephoto@photog.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Lemmylaugh @Emperor
The tire companies researched and innovated for EV tyres, and that reduces shedding.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 26 points 1 year ago

It's heartening to see that a small change can make such a big difference. Good luck trying to get the Tories to take that message onboard though.

[-] richdotward@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I was surprised myself, 10p a time adds up. Being so cheap it was easy enough to carry 2 large clothe bags in my backpack everywhere. Saved a fortune over the years over paying for plastic bags.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't even usually want a bag.

But it's the default and I'm too lazy to tell them I don't need one every time. Making it not the default is plenty.

[-] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

What is missed in this article is bags for life purchases. We saw the same article more or less in 2019 and once you factored that in there wasn't much of an improvement in plastic use or disposal. Expect the same to appear after this article at some point.

[-] raptir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

A reusable plastic bag only needs to be reused ~40 times before it is better than single use plastic bags. Are people really using them so few times that they can't hit that?

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

All the data says that no, people are not reusing them.

Anecdotally, it makes sense. You left your bag in the trunk, or at home, or it turns out you got slightly too many groceries, or you're staying at a friend's house and you pop out to get some groceries and don't have your bag...

[-] raptir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Well that's a shame. I guess living in a car-centric region it's easy for me to just throw them in the trunk so I always have them, but I could imagine if I was taking public transit more often it would be easier to forget them.

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[-] donut4ever@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder how Walmart is going to implement and they switched most of their check out lines to self checkout.

[-] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Self serving checkouts ask you how many bags you want and charge for them in the UK. I have seen a growth in adults using backpacks, it wasn't the norm before the bag charge.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I use my backpack, much better for carrying heavy groceries

[-] Wooly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Doesn't everyone else just click no bags? Free bags baby.

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[-] goforliftoff@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I was in Maine recently and they charge for bags there. At Walmart, the self checkout staff member was also selling bags to the people who needed them, in addition to monitoring everything else that happens at self checkout.

[-] donut4ever@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I see. Thank you. I like the no bags thing. Costco and Aldi have been doing it for years and I never minded it

[-] sci@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

The supermarket close to my home has self checkout, you just have to scan the bag in addition to your products.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

In Canada we just fully banned plastic bags. Walmart just doesn't offer any bags at self checkout anymore besides the reusable ones. It's kind of annoying if you forget to bring bags but it's not a huge deal. If I'm walking I'll just fill my personal grocery cart, or if I'm driving I'll just throw everything loose in my car. If I do need a bag I'll just spend $0.25 on a reusable bag.

It's really not a big deal like a lot of people expected

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[-] panicnow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m in a conservative small town. My Walmart no longer even sells one use grocery bags! They had signs up for a couple months before hand.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Tesco and Sainsbury's usually just have the bags at the entrance to the self checkout and you just scan the bag before using it.

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[-] astanix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The county north of the one I live in decided to just ban them completely. So the big chain store that used to have free paper or plastic bags switched to charging for the paper bags.

This seems like such a better idea.

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