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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by otter@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world

EDIT:

So according to this thread, this is a Google related change and not Nvidia?

In which case, similar to the banner issue from a previous update, you can get a different launcher (see comments for FLauncher) to avoid it

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShieldAndroidTV/comments/181vh4t/ads_at_full_screen/

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[-] krimson@feddit.nl 108 points 1 year ago

Install ProjectIvy from the app store on your Shield or Chromecast with Android TV as an alternative launcher.

Also not buying a Shield anymore in the future. Putting ads in a product you paid for should be fucking illegal at this point.

[-] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Instead of projectivy I use ATV Launcher Pro. It's pretty good. It allows for widgets, though I find many I want to display don't work correct, which is unfortunate. I did spend $3 on it, but I don't mind paying for an app. It just means the developer can make money without displaying ads

[-] 520@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I also went for ATV. Fuck the default launcher.

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

+1 for projectivy. Easy to use, looks good, stays out of the way. I use it on my shield and also use it on my cheap onn pucks.

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Is it difficult to install? Like do I need to side load it or can I install it straight from the UI? I am definitely over Google shoving non-stop ads into my paid for experience.

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Nope. Just install from the play store.

[-] czech@low.faux.moe 2 points 11 months ago

Is there a way to get it to launch automatically without sideloading anything?

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Also not buying a Shield anymore in the future.

Well, that is gonna be easy, I don't think this product will still continue in the future.

[-] LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

thanks <3 I just did this on my shield today and what a breeze this launcher is!

[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

I'm so excited for the new.. reads feature updates.. full-screen ads?

Fuck off. This is why I will never purchased an "embedded" device.

[-] bestnerd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What are you using now if you don’t mind me asking. Had a Roku and moved to this for the quality of sound and video

[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I have an old RPi2 laying around that runs OSMC. I rarely watch stuff on my TV, most of the time I just watch it on my second monitor while I'm doing stuff.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

But I bought the hardware, why do I want full screen ads on bootup and between launching every app?

Imagine a laptop playing a full screen ad every time you closed word to open up your web browser. Just rather thow my laptop at the wall.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windows 11 (in certain markets anyway):

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don't need to imagine, Windows already has ads lol

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 43 points 1 year ago

YES! FINALLY! i thought something was missing from this expensive piece of hardware and here it is, ads! I love wasting time on ads and they sure know what i love!

/s

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

These devices are pretty popular, so if you have one it might be time to disable updates

[-] evident5051@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

If Google can update the user interface server-side, doesn't that mean that disabling updates still wouldn't work for avoiding these full screen ads?

[-] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

depends on how they plan on implementing the update and what they already have in place software and firmware-wise

[-] IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 6 points 1 year ago

If you read the article, it doesn't sound like the ads and update are related. Some users are seeing ads. There is also an update coming soon.

If the ads are a server side change the update won't do anything?

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[-] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

This is probably one of the purchases I regret the most. First they updated it and put shitty banner ads in the launcher so I had to install a custom one to get round that. Then they disabled game stream which I’ll admit I only used a few times, but it was still one of the reasons I went with the shield over another device. And now this…

I think when I replace it I’ll just get a mini PC instead

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I would never regret about my Nvidia Shield TV, in fact it is one of the best purchases I have ever done, I have one since 2018 or 2017 perhaps and that unit got busted and Nvidia replaced mine for free (they sent me a power adapter first, which didn't help for my issue, for free too) even when it was outside of the warranty period, and they didn't even replace it for another 2017 unit, they gave me the 2019 pro, perhaps for inventory reasons, (and a ruler as a gift lol) a very pro move if you ask me.

Now the 2019 unit is dated for sure, and the launcher with ads was a dirt move sure, that is why I downgraded the unit and debloated it, this is how my unit looks like now.

I mean I still appreciate they are still supporting hardware from 2015 in 2023.

[-] Schmeckinger@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

You can still game stream with sunlight + moonlight. And the advantage is that it works with any brand GPU.

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[-] uzay@infosec.pub 35 points 1 year ago

If my device started showing full-screen ads all of a sudden I'd assume I caught some malware. I guess I'll never update mine past v8.

[-] looping@jlai.lu 23 points 1 year ago
[-] robolemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This is what I’m using. It’s kinda ugly but totally ad-free and does what I want but not one bit more. I installed flauncher, connected to the shield with network adb, disabled the leanback launcher, then hit the home button on the remote. Easy peasy, and much better than remapping buttons IMO

[-] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Same for me.

In the current version it was already advertising / recommending shows and movies too me I have no interest in. I just want my plex content and that's it. A custom launcher is great for that.

[-] starfennec@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Same here, one other improvement I would recommend is remapping the Netflix button to something less annoying/more useful in case you press it accidentally. If you have Hue lights, you could make it toggle your lights with this app for example.

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[-] bestnerd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Would a pihole or something like adguars dns that stops ads be a good solution to this? Or would I be stuck with just full screen black screen?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depends on how they do it I guess

I remember reading about the newer home screen added a promotional banner. It was showing content from the apps themselves (ex. New shows from Disney+) but it was still annoying and a lot of people switched to a different launcher.

People will probably figure something out

edit: see the comment by @looping@jlai.lu

[-] bestnerd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s a good point. I didn’t notice but have a ton of ads now from Disney etc…I’ll try flauncher

[-] Peddling8069@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago

Downgrade to 8.2.3 and you'll be happy with the shield again. https://florisse.nl/shield/

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[-] machinin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Is there a good alternative to Google TVs? I recently bought a TV and absolutely hate Google on it.

I have a media server, is there a way to install a launcher for my TV that can access Netflix, YouTube, Plex and other services?

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love(d) my Shield, I first bought the original, and then the updated model. I use it every day, but the lack of hardware updates (still using USB 2, only has 12 GB internal storage, low RAM, etc...) and constant ads and "sponsored content" has made me fall out of love with it.

I asked a few weeks back about a replacement and someone recommended this one to me. It runs on Android 12, supports 4K Dolby Atmos and Vision, and has better hardware than the Shield. It isn't cheap though.

[-] LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Same price as a shield tho, so might be equally worth it if it is good?

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The person that recommended it to me said they love it and kept recommending other things I could do with it, like install an ARM version of Linux that runs Kodi as the frontend instead of Linux. I don't mind paying the money if it's of equal or greater quality than the Shield.

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So it could get the same update that makes the launcher an ad-riddled cesspit?

How easy are these devices to root and install alternative roms? Are there alternative roms available to install?

I really wish these devices were more like desktop computers. I want the freedom to install anything I want.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My solution last weekend when I saw this post was to downgrade both my sheilds to 8.2.3, I never liked the adds on the sheilds main homepage tbh but have gotten used to the as time passed.

In this process though once I downgraded I noticed the adds displayed once again on both my sheilds. This was because the android tv launcher app downloads a update. To get around this I disabled auto upgrade of apps on my sheilds and denyed the upgrade of the Google tv launcher and removed the update. No more adds on the launcher.

I have a feeling this is how google will push full screen adds through their launcher app in the play store.

Here is a well written guide how to downgrade to 8.2.3 that I followed.

https://florisse.nl/shield-downgrade/

Took about 30min on my second sheilds once I figured out the first sheild after 2 hours.

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[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Shit like this is why I haven’t updated my Shield in the 2 years I’ve had it and never will.

[-] Pepsi@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

same, still running the pre-ad stock OS. i do keep it offline though, it only accesses local media

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Damn I considered one of these for a little bit when I was working on getting my own home streaming setup going. Decided against it because it looked kinda stupid and I hate Android and a lot of the stuff that comes with it. I guess I dodged a bullet on that one.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

To be honest, there is hardly any good competition for the Shield TV Pro even on this day, but that is the fault of the industry completely.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I occasionally see auto-playing ad on my Chromecast with Google TV about twice a year so far. Every time I hit Send Feedback immediately and say something harsh about the ads and they disappear shortly after. I'm considering building a LineageOS Android TV machine based on the ODROID-C4. I'm just unsure what level of Widevine I'd get. I'd be okay with 1080p. 720p would be a bit shit. Anyone tried this route?

[-] tinsuke@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting... I have an OG Shield, also in the Netherlands, but have seen no ads (that being said, companies A/B test and do gradual rollout of this kind of BS).

But I also kept my Android Home in the version without ads by disabling Play Store updates and instead manually going over all apps (except Home!) every month or so (or when I have an issue with any app I use).

I feel confident that I'll be able to hack my way around this new form of ads.

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