344
submitted 2 years ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 41 points 2 years ago

I need to get back to playing W3. It seems like a great game by all accounts. But, I will not be purchasing another game from CDPR until at least 6 months post-release given the state of CP2077. Not only was it released in an unacceptable state, it wasn't the game that was promised. There have been so many good games released between last year and this year, I can wait until ~2030 if they need to take their time polishing it and making it a complete experience.

[-] nous@programming.dev 37 points 2 years ago

But, I will not be purchasing another AAA game ~~from CDPR~~ until at least 6 months post-release

FTFY, unfinished release day games seems to be more than just a CDPR problem.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

That's unfortunately true. There are not many developers/publishers I would trust to purchase their products on release day.

[-] n1ckn4m3@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not only that, but their PR person gaslighting people with the article claiming that the game wasn't bad, it was just "cool to hate" has left a really bad taste in my mouth. The game could be absolutely amazing now and the expansion pack could be the game that we were always promised, but the experience and the follow-up has been so bad that I'm similarly waiting until post launch (heck, perhaps even until GOTY with included DLC) for any future CDPR games.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

I personally couldn't make it past the "no object permanence" issue, where NPC's would just spawn into and out of existence depending on where the camera was pointing. It was like a magician brought a clear cloth to the table to perform a trick, and we could see how the trick was performed the entire time. It doesn't make his performance less impressive, but it sure would make it less immersive.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You realize cyberpunk wasn't the only game they've made that needed fixed after release right? Both W1 and 2 had enhanced edition patches to fix the broken shit in both games. W1 was a 7/10 game on release by multiple outlets. W3 was the first game they actually took their time with and delayed multiple times to avoid the enhanced edition patches. Anyone who thought cyberpunk was going to be flawless on release was breathing in that hopium.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

You realize cyberpunk wasn’t the only game they’ve made that needed fixed after release right?

Nope. I skipped those.

[-] ono@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It seems like a great game by all accounts.

Unpopular opinion: I liked the characters and lore a lot, but I found that the sloppy controls and sluggish movement made the world frustrating to interact with, and most of the encounters were so repetitive that I was bored before long. I ended up switching to easy mode so I could finish the story without having to spend much time on the tedious gameplay.

IMHO, if you were to rush through W3 in story mode and skip the side quests, just to get the background before playing W4, I don't think you'd be missing much.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

I have only played a few hours, but I recall what I thought was a side quest involving pigs, which was a great quest. Are you suggesting that memorable side quests are infrequent and can/should be skipped?

[-] ono@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I actually found the side quests' writing pretty good, and indeed, sometimes even memorable. Unfortunately, most of those quests share a handful of nearly identical tasks, so the good writing started to feel like little more than window dressing before long.

The map encounters were worse, though: Lots of question marks telling me exactly where to go meant there was nearly no real exploration to be had in this open world, and arriving at them led to the same copypasta events over and over again. If you happen to enjoy those events enough that you can't get enough of them, then that's great, but I was bored after the first dozen or so. (Skyrim was far better in this department.)

I remember liking a lot of the main quests, and the characters, and the story, and the world building. It's just that the bulk of the gameplay felt like filler content, with forgettable combat and awkward controls. (I swear, Geralt, if you plod forward one more time when I pull back on the stick, or let one more candle get in the way when I try to interact with something useful, I'm gonna smack you.)

I hope Witcher 4 maintains (or even improves upon) the writing quality of its predecessor, and adds responsive controls and interesting gameplay beyond the main plot points.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago

On the one hand I'm always excited for more Witcher. On the other hand Cyberpunk 2077. More seriously, I hope they make a great game and it that lives up to the expectations people are going to have for a new Witcher game, but I'm keeping my expectations in check until I see the finished product.

[-] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I'm hoping the initial backlash from cyberpunk actually registered with them. Other than that I'm also worried about what kind of story and characters they'll use considering the way the last dlc for witcher 3 ended. Not sure I'll be into Ciri based gameplay. That was my least favorite part of Witcher 3, and I don't really want them to retcon the end of blood and wine either to continue with Geralt.

[-] Tripp1976@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

They need to go back in time to when all the witcher schools were still going and you can choose which school you're a part of at the beginning, make your own witcher instead of one playable character.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That sounds really bad on paper, tbh. The cool parts about the player character all stem from how it's a defined person with an existing personality and place in the world. If it becomes Skyrim: Witcher Edition, we'd probably also inherit the shallow~inexistent storytelling of that.

[-] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

What if it becomes Baldurs Gate 3: Witcher Edition? BG3 also has a player created character without an existing personality and the storytelling is certainly not shallow in that game.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I could see them doing interesting things with Ciri's magic, but there is a good chance they use a different witcher. Or maybe significantly earlier than the existing witcher games? Young Geralt or maybe Vesimir?

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay.

I'd love that. Sure they'd have to really re-do her combat style since it was only a brief intermission before, but it feels natural to progress to her eventually. And honestly, it's high time Geralt takes a bow after 3 games as big as they are, and as awesome as those were. Exit before they eventually ruin him. 😅

[-] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I agree. After the ending, I was happy my boy could get some rest too lol

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Cyberpunk's patching has showed me that ~1-1,5 years after release is a really good time to jump in.

By which time, between patches and mods, the worst stuff is dealt with and the experience can be really nice, if a bit tepid due to bad design decisions that mods cannot fix. Still, enjoyable game after patches and at a discount.

[-] And009@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

Witcher already has the lore done well. They just need to get the experience right.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Good. I hope Witcher 4 will rock! Still not preordering anything. Especially not from CDPR after Cyberpunk.

[-] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Never pre ordering anything for any reason ever has been a pretty good piece of advice to live by, I've found.

[-] Senseless@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Good. I pre-ordered the collector's edition of Witcher 3 and it was worth every penny. After the Cyberpunk launch debacle they need to earn back that trust.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 years ago

Yeah but how much of cd projekt red is left?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago
[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

I mean because they laid off so many people

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Which is like the ship changing wood.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

I hope it gets all the love and care The Witcher series and its fans deserve. They are going to have to make up a lot of ground with consumers to get back to W3 standards though.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I hope the praise heaped on Cyberpunk 2077 now doesn't let them forget the absolute shitshow of a launch so that they don't try to rush out the next game half-baked as well.

[-] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I think the biggest problem for Cyberpunk was that they also released it on last gen consoles which cost them many resources that could've otherwise been used to polish the game for the other platforms.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They also flat out lied about what kind of game it is right until the release. They promised NPCs with their own lives and incredibly intricate dialogue choices that have ripple effects on the whole game. Nothing like that is in the game, even now.

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

Can't wait to try this about a year or two after it releases.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 14 points 2 years ago

They should make it an FPS just to fuck with people

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't mind as long as I can kick, Dark Messiah style.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I still have to start the witcher 3. I've like 5 or 6 games on the go at the moment so it will be a while yet. I also plan to get cyberpunk goty or whatever edition for like 5 ducats in a future steam sale.

[-] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You, pal, are in for a treat. Block your calendar.

I wish I could erase the memory of having played the game multiple times.

I think it’s time for a New Game+.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks 🙏. Yeah I'm looking forward to it. I just need to get through the current lot and dedicate a nice block of time to sink my teeth into it.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
344 points (95.3% liked)

Games

40846 readers
216 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS