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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by gogosempai@programming.dev to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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Simple Mobile apps have been very popular among FOSS enthusiasts. I've personally been using the Gallery, Contacts and the Phone app since a few years now. It's a shame that it has come to this, will be on the lookout for their forks.

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[-] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Jeez, why can't we have nice things ?!

What are the alternatives ? I'll be searching.

If you guys find something, please, report back.

Edit: For gallery, this looks promising: https://f-droid.org/packages/deckers.thibault.aves.libre/

The one and only up to date dialer app I could find. Updated 50 minutes ago at the time of posting this: https://github.com/oxcened/opendialer

[-] satan@r.nf 26 points 11 months ago

Jeez, why can't we have nice things ?!

Because freeloaders who call themselves "open source enthusiasts" aren't really good at supporting people who create them. It's often quite the opposite. Rude, entitled, and ungrateful bunch of whiners that want everything free and some more. Then act surprised after their favorite opensource app is shutdown, sold or archived.

This guy even had paid apps on the playstore so whoever says "but opensouce doesn't mean you can't sell em" can fuck right off.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

And you think the solution is to sell to a company that will instantly add data mining and ads? Often to those users, for whom we have installed these apps, but from google play for the automatic updates?

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[-] thru_dangers_untold@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

Aves Libre is a great gallery app, and Amaze is a good file manager

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[-] maiskanzler@feddit.de 37 points 11 months ago

Oh no, those apps have replaced many of the OEM' supplied ones on all my devices. I was fed up with constantly changing UIs and all the different feature sets on every device. I thought I had finally found something useful to consolidate on for the long term!

At least the current versions are pretty bug free and will stay.

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Same here.Also apps are completely offline with nice backups. Think like We have to switch

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[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

From the comment thread it sounds like the contract might be on shaky ground. The original dev seems to be under the impression that a project licensed under GPLv3 can just be freely changed to another license, which it cannot without explicit consent from all contributors. We don't know the contract language of course, but the dev said it would "likely" not remain open source, which indicates that he told them they could change it. ZippApps' lawyers will hopefully notice that and refuse to buy, though either way we shouldn't trust this maintainer again and should move to the forks.

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[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 32 points 11 months ago

Looks like one of the maintainers/contributors has already set up a fork.

https://github.com/FossifyX

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

His original comment of not wanting to fork to respect Tibor's decision to sell his users out doesn't make me confident in him.

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 23 points 11 months ago

I'd like to think he was just trying to be respectful of the author, probably having worked quite a bit together. But he changed his mind pretty quickly when he saw the original author had totally checked out. Maybe that's a generous reading though.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Maybe he wasn't even aware of this until everyone else was and got blindsided too. I'm still wary but I'll give him a shot.

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[-] erAck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

It's been renamed to FossifyOrg.

[-] MaddestMax@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago
[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 11 months ago

Damn, I was not aware what kind of company this got sold to. Thats a shame.

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago

Aves Libre is already a far better gallery that you should be using even if this wasn't happening.

[-] gogosempai@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

It doesn't have a video editor AFAIK. Any FOSS video editors around?

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[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Not great, but it's open source. If they try anything, just fork it and move on to the fork.

[-] sag@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Who gonna maintain it? Community? Single Dev? Or You(Me)

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago
[-] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago
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[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 11 points 11 months ago
[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago

Fork you too and, while we are at it, fork us all.

We all got forked with this one.

With a large barbecue one.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

oh no! fragmentation!

[-] citytree@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

When ZipoApps adds advertisements and telemetry to a future version of the Simple Mobile Tools apps, will my Google-Play-installed apps be automatically updated to the newer version with ads and telemetry? I don't want ZipoApps to get any of my data.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 25 points 11 months ago

i would encourage you to switch to fdroid or obtainium as soon as possible, if you are able to

[-] Ikarus@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago

Yes. If you have automatic updates enabled, it will install the newest version with trackers and ads. You could disable the automatic update for these apps and hope they stay relevant to your os for a little while.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

I would also recommend switching ASAP. You can make a backup of their internal data with App Manager (available from f-droid) which you can then restore to the f-droid version

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So this just looks like the Community has to take care of the projects and/or find alternatives

Alternatives

File manager - Material Files

That one doesnt have the security vulnerability and I think it is also better. But they are pretty much equal.

Simple Gallery - Aves

I prefer Simple Gallery though, it is pretty great

Simple dialer - Welefon

Very basic, I personally use ACR phone for call recording, with disabled internet permissions. The Dev asked on Reddit about opensourcing the App and got negative responses, so maybe unlikely.

Simple Keyboard - Florisboard

Currently unmaintained but awesome. I hope it gets revived.

Simple Calculator

My favourite: Mint Calculator

Calculator

yetCalc

Unitto

Simple SMS

AOSP SMS/MMS, Quik Sms

AOSP SMS is poorly hard to find. That would be great on F-Droid. It also uses old libraries.

All these look way better and have unit transformations.

Some Gems

Some apps have no good replacement

Simple Gallery

Also in my opinion just the best. The Amaze Videoplayer and tools are great though.

Simple Contacts SE

That is the better version with some enhanced features.

Simple Calendar

I just got way better results than using Etar. The Widget is great too.

[-] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What about OpenBoard? It is maintained and a great keyboard

NVM, it is not maintained, but there is a very active fork: https://github.com/Helium314/openboard

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[-] jlow@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

I recently found OpenBoard as an alternative to Florisboard.

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[-] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In recent times the developer has been showing some serious miscommunication and other issues regarding their apps. Just look at their terrible handling of the vulnerabilities found in their file manager's pdf reader (See his responses to the report)

Since around that time, I've been looking for alternatives to their apps, but I've kept using some of them because I couldn't find anything that feels as good to use. I guess now I'm forced to really look for those alternatives, or see if there's any serious fork that still gets actively maintained weeks from now.

[-] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

Fuck

So now I have to contact all the family members where I removed the bloatware and replaced with the smt apps, uninstall them before the "just 39 euro per week for adfree" subscription scam starts, find suitable replacements, train people to get used to new icons...

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[-] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

Even if it's removed from fdroid because they want to close source it, I assume my current installations of their apps would be unaffected - just become stale and obsolete over time since they won't get updates... But as they're offline anyway, not too concerned in the short term. Hopefully the company respects the privacy amd care of the open source community and won't take that away from us, though. One way to find out.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

In the linked github issue it has turned out that the company is expected to turn up data mining and ads as much as they can

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago
[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

I just went through my phone and this will cause a search for a new gallery, calendar, notes and keyboard.

SECUSO apps will most probably provide the notes replacement (I admit I'm really impress with the apps lineup they have).

What alternatives can you suggest to replace the other apps mention.

I pull FOSS apps from F-Droid and do my best to avoid the App Store.

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

Aves gallery is fantastic, far better than Simple Gallery.

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[-] retrolasered@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

you-apps might serve to replace a few too

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[-] fahad@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Thanks for pointing out.

[-] danileonis@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There're good alternatives for every app, the only real lost are contacts and dialer, imo.

[-] gogosempai@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

The Gallery is also the most feature-rich one in FOSS with even a video editor. Couldn't find any other FOSS video editors out there.

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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, of course.

[-] retrolasered@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

Oh :( should we do a 'what apps are you using post'?

[-] mnglw@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago
[-] anotherinternetrobot@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Goodwy seems to be forks of SMT apps https://github.com/Goodwy?tab=repositories. Open source, no ads, no trackers and no internet permission, unfortunately you have to either compile yourself or download them from the play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=8268163890866913014

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