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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago

Elon is ultimately a victim of his own tragic stupidity. He wanted to believe that he was always the smartest guy in the room and paid handsomely for smarter people to pretend that he was.

But then he bought Xitter and reality caught up with him. A middling intellect with barely surface knowledge of every venture he pollutes with his presence.

The real tragedy is what all those smart people could have done with all those resources if they weren’t being led by a fuckwit.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 61 points 11 months ago

Supposedly, the companies he bought when they were still very small (Tesla, SpaceX) developed a culture of managing Elon, and new employees would gradually learn how they need to deal with his requests to keep him happy while still keeping the business going.

But because Twitter was already so large and established, and Musk took over and started making big changes right away, they didn't have the culture or the institutional knowledge of how to deal with him. So the damage has been so much worse.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

I've been in an org like that, run by an untreated bipolar guy who genuinely was a visionary and very very smart. We also had to work around the guy, but he was also very much the straw that stirred the drink.

Just the fact that companies had to have Elon Rules to prevent sidetracking doesn't necessarily mean he was a net negative if his talents lined up with the company. He is obviously taking a giant shit on Twitter and it plays to his worst instincts though (for fuck's sake, using a picture of yourself in a meme is as lame as wearing your own band's t-shirt).

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure I also remember him firing his PR team right about the time he made the pedo comment to the caver who saved a bunch of kids. Which is coincidentally one of the first instances people started questioning his genius narrative

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago
[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 13 points 11 months ago

I have asked myself that for years...

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago

In this specific case he is taking about the Jews. And nothing specific to Israel or the conflict in Palestine, but to "The Jews"

[-] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Serious question, what is he talking about? Does anyone know? I would like to be enlightened by this insightful, brilliant, genius, strategist and then make my own assessment of his thoughts.

[-] propaganja@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Everyone else is wrong. Caution is advised: I'm being serious and it's a serious problem. He's talking about government censorship of media, specifically Twitter, but the problem is widespread and getting worse.

I'm disappointed that liberals who have been smart for so long can so easily become dumb as bricks because they lack the emotional maturity to criticize their own side/admit that the other side is right on this issue, if only incidentally. At the least one should be able to acknowledge that it's been expedient for the Right to champion free speech because doing so directly protects their interests—and I don't give them any more credit than that—but at least they're unintentionally doing the right thing. The Left unfortunately deserves criticism, not credit, because for reasons it's been expedient for them to censor speech because it directly forwards their interests.

In the end it's folly to think that any side is necessarily better or more just than the other, or to think sides have any important meaning at all beyond logistical maneuvering. It baffles me that the vast majority of adults in America can watch their enemy do a thing and vehemently denounce it, then turn around and watch their ally do something perfectly analogous, if not exactly the same, and stubbornly defend it without giving an inch; without a modicum of empathy, remorse, or self-reflection. Worse is that none of it even fucking matters. People are ready to have a political orgasm when the other side gets caught mishandling secret files, but get bored hearing about how the economy is burning to the ground. Neither side gives a fuck about anything that matters because unless it can be used as political ammo, neither side will bring it up unless they have to.

A little bit of my soul died the day I realized the party I championed wasn't so much better as it was not currently in power (or in danger of losing power), and was simply temporarily more interested in saying and occasionally even doing the right things—the absolute least amount possible—to return to power (or remain in power). Those that think I'm being the least bit cynical should know that they are not qualified to have any kind of meaningful or productive discussion on these topics—they're wasting their breath at best, unwitting tools of propaganda at worst—and their partisan bickering collectively is literally the biggest reason we will never get out of this mess. A lot of you are young and I don't hold it against you, but don't take too long to get your shit straight. The world really is depending on you to direct your energy at the right causes, and Elon Musk isn't one of them.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Can you give me an example of the government censoring free speech on Twitter?

[-] numlok@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago
[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago

I reworked an old phrase because of Musk.

You either die a hero or live long enough for everyone to work out you're a fucking idiot.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You either die a hero or live long enough for everyone to work out you're a fucking idiot.

the real testament example to the statement

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Elon is totally right though?

The Jews are a tight knit community of kind hearted, helpful people, but none of them will give me their bagel recipes, even when I scream at them at traffic lights.

They can't keep getting away with this.

[-] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

spoiler"Ingredients

About 1/2 cup warm water

1 1/2 Tablespoons vegetable oil, plus a drop more to grease the dough

1 egg, lightly beaten

1 1/2-2 Tbs sugar

1 1/2 tsp salt

1 envelope of yeast

3 1/2 cups (500g) bread flour

1 egg white, to glaze

Directions

In a large bowl, mix the flour, yeast, salt, and sugar well. Then mix in the egg and the oil and add the water gradually, working it in with your hand — enough to make a soft dough that holds together in a ball. Add more water if necessary, or more flour if it is too sticky.

Turn the dough out and knead on a floured board for 10‑15 minutes, until it is very smooth and elastic. Grease the dough all over by putting a drop of oil in the bowl and rolling the dough around in it. Cover the bowl with plastic wrap and leave to rise in a warm place for 1 1/2 hours, or until doubled in bulk.

Punch the dough down and knead again briefly. An easy way of shaping the bagels into rings is to roll out the dough to a rectangle about 1 inch (2 1/2 cm) thick and cut it into 11 equal strips with a pointed knife. Roll each strip between your palms into a rope about 7 inches (18 cm) long and 1/2 inch (1 1/2 cm) thick and bring the ends together, pinching them to seal and form a bracelet. Place the rings on an oiled surface, and let them rise for about 1 hour, or until doubled in bulk.

Bring plenty of water to a boil in a wide pan, then lower the heat to medium. Slip in 4 bagels at a time. Boil them for 1‑2 minutes, turning them over once as they rise to the top. Then lift them out quickly with a slotted spoon and place them on a cloth to dry. Do the same with the rest of the bagels. Arrange on oiled baking sheets, brush with egg white, and bake in a preheated 375F (190C) oven for 15‑20 minutes, until nicely browned."

We cool now?

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

He's right! The science textbook deep state has been trying to teach you for Decades that air flows faster over the top of an airplane wing because the path over the top is longer, and that generates lower pressure, and therefore lift. It's always been nonsense! Airplane wings generate lift by directly, unambiguously pushing air down, by being angled relative to the incoming air stream (called an angle of attack). This is why completely flat wings on balsa wood gliders and paper airplanes function perfectly well.

Bernoulli has nothing to do with it!

... at least I assume that's what he's talking about. I guess it is Elon, so it's probably nonsense of some kind.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

It's my understanding that this is a point of no small contention between knowledgeable theoreticians of the subject.

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It's extemely easy to make gliders with and with angle of attack, and with and without curved top wing surfaces. Simple experimentation demonstrates that I'm right, fully apart from early aircraft designs that didn't have different curvature on the top and bottom surface of the wing.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Uh, okay. Airfoils experimentally outperform flat plate wings, even though it is true that flat plate with a suitable angle of attack does indeed provide some lift independent of Bernoulli. The contention I referred to was in regard to the relative proportion of contribution of either factor.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Planes can fly upside-down without plummeting into the ground, which implies to me that angle of attack dominates.

[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 9 points 11 months ago

Listen, this is how modern-day-flat-earth and birds-aren’t-real type shit starts.

Let me just nip this in the bud with one word:

DRAG*

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

*No I’m not a man in women’s clothes. There aren’t any pockets there.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

It's my understanding that both elements play a role, that the relative role of each element varies conditionally, and that the precise relativity is not a solved problem.

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Listen, the actual physical process is neither airfoil or angle of attack; what is actually happening is the wings are pushing the earth itself to move to the desired location of the aircraft. The aircraft itself doesn’t move at all. This is why airplanes and helicopters can’t fly in outer space .

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Right... I'm saying that an airfoil without angle of attack on a glider will plummet, and a flat plate with angle of attack will glide, because air won't move faster over the top surface of the wing just because the path is longer - instead, angle of attack causes the air on the underside of the wing to slow down, and the air on the top of the wing is not slowed down (in the reference frame of the aircraft).

Flat plate wings are not preferred because there is turbulent flow induced by its movement, not because it doesn't provide enough lift.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

All I said was that it's a point of some contention.

I'm just gonna go with NASA on this one:

There are many explanations for the generation of lift found in encyclopedias, in basic physics textbooks, and on Web sites. Unfortunately, many of the explanations are misleading and incorrect. Theories on the generation of lift have become a source of great controversy and a topic for heated arguments.

Lift occurs when a flow of gas is turned by a solid object. The flow is turned in one direction, and the lift is generated in the opposite direction, according to Newtons Third Law of action and reaction. Because air is a gas and the molecules are free to move about, any solid surface can deflect a flow. For an airfoil, both the upper and lower surfaces contribute to the flow turning. Neglecting the upper surface's part in turning the flow leads to an incorrect theory of lift.

[-] Doug@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

I think the two of you are having different arguments together.

You're saying it's a contributing factor and they're saying it's not the cause. Both of these things can be true.

We are taught in school that planes can fly because of the shape of the wing. That isn't necessarily true even if it does have influence. It can happen without the wing shape. It may happen more effectively with it, but that wasn't the claim.

You can both be right here.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.

The science textbook deep state has been trying to teach you for Decades that air flows faster over the top of an airplane wing because the path over the top is longer, and that generates lower pressure, and therefore lift. It's always been nonsense! Airplane wings generate lift by directly, unambiguously pushing air down, by being angled relative to the incoming air stream (called an angle of attack). This is why completely flat wings on balsa wood gliders and paper airplanes function perfectly well.

Bernoulli has nothing to do with it!

The claim I see here is not that the Bernoulli effect isn't the primary source of lift, but that it isn't involved at all. They double down later saying that airfoils are used over flat wings exclusively to combat turbulence.

And my claim was simply that there has been some debate on the topic among experts, because there has.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago

I'm mad Elon lied about the feasability of the hyperloop in order to kill competing public transport options in order to boost Tesla sales.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So according to himself, I'm justified in being mad at him?

Also I gotta improve my filters, his useless garbage is coming through to my feed.

[-] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

the old filter setting wont work you got to download the new filter called mastodon another good filter is called gnuSocial

[-] Vendul@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago

Le sigh. What is space Karen mumbling this time about?

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

Using himself as a meme like a dork.

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