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What are your thoughts on Atlantropa? I haven't really thought about the implications or consequences, I just think we should do it because it would be cool as fuck

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[-] context@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

venice still connected to the sea by a canal 100s of km long is a good bit

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

We should make it so that they still have regular floods

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

This would destroy coastal ecosystems, fishing villages, and a lot of the tourism economy.

But it would also make Gaza bigger so who's to say.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Looks like there would be a massive power struggle between Greece and Turkey for control of that new archipelago, NATO might collapse in on itself as 2 members go to war. Would be sick.

[-] RedDawn@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Just reading the Wikipedia article it seems like the idea is for Europe to unite to colonize Africa and this massive engineering project is just a part of that goal, so I don't like it.

[-] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Everyone would die from this and the toxic dust blowing from the dried up salt flats that used to be the Mediterranean while also destroying a massive amount of the marine and terrestrial ecosystems of Europe, Africa, The Middle East and Asia.

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

ok but have you considered that it would also be cool as fuck?

[-] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Itd actually be cringe and bad as fuck and you’re probably a liberal for suggesting this

I bet you voted for Kamala Harris in 2016

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

You are goddamn right that I voted for Kamala Harris in 2016 and I will do it again in 2024. She is the only one who can wield the power of Venn Diagrams in order to heal America

[-] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

How fucking dare you when we have a more viable and electable candidate in planet-hillary

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Glad to see you support it too!

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I love it. Let's turn europe into northern sahara

this but unironically

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

What are the ecological impacts of blocking the migration of sea animals?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

ecological impacts? there's not gonna be an ecology, silly

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

We've towed the ecology out of the environment.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It's economically logical if that's what you're asking

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

that's a deeply stupid and irresponsible plan

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

takes more money than ww2 and benefits no-body. it's brilliant

I'm sure it will cause some form of ecological catastrophe as well although I don't know how exactly how but I do know that a hard engineering project of that scale is bound to fuck something up

[-] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is like trying to reverse the zanclean flood so you can do more grandiose neocolonialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanclean_flood

One thing that could be cool I guess is that the land reclamation could expose sites of archeological interest that teach us more about the early hominids that lived in that period

[-] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Wait, that's not how canals work, the water can't flow up a canal from 200m below.

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two rivers flow into the Venice lagoon, the Sile and the Brenta. So as long as you balanced the outflow through the canal, the lagoon wouldn't dry up, but it would turn into freshwater and totally change the largest wetland ecosystem in the Mediterranean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Lagoon

You'd still need to go through 200m of locks to get from the port of Venice to the Atlantic. For reference, the locks at the Three Gorges Dam have an elevation change of 113m. Edit: actually the canal might have a gentle enough slope that you wouldn't need that many locks, it would basically be an artificial river.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

It'll probably be an unmitigated ecological disaster but, on the other hand, there's a Berlin-Capetown railway so... Critical support?

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Of course there's a Tom Scott video about it: https://youtu.be/TEdsQmjLMKs?si=9GxfhYhYQMxPPISI

Also, part of this plan was to create huge artificial lakes in Africa: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1qgx9fzz0uvz.png

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

That's just a vile Italiano plot to yet again deny the sea access to Austria-Hungary and to finally stop seeing Marseille from their boats.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Bring back Doggerland

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should turn Mediterranean sea and Arctic ocean into one

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

If you drop seal level by 200 meters, you're gonna have to dig the suez 200 meters deeper.

Not that anyone is going to be shipping on a salinifying endorheic basin.

interesting: Mediterranean winds blow north, but Black Sea winds blow South and East

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