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[-] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I don't even want to replace my battery. I want it to last. At least 5 years.

Bring legislation that enforces a 5 year warranty on batteries that are built-in. That would help the environment much more than being able to replace a battery every year that shouldn't fail in the first place. And yes, it's possible to build batteries that last longer. It's more effort, true. But so is building exchangeable batteries or doing an exchange. I rather shell off 50 € more for my phone when I know that the battery will make it 5 years.

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[-] Steinsprut@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago
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[-] haych@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Back in the day I used to just keep 2-3 fully charged spare batteries if I went out. No need for a battery pack to recharge if I can just quickly swap battery and get a days worth of charge instantly.

[-] abcd@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

This is great news! Even better than the USB-C regulation. Changing a battery on a modern phone is a huge pita… And it’s definitely getting worse since some companies are trying everything to prevent you from doing so…

I would absolutely buy a phone twice as thick as my iPhone SE 2020 if it has an easily swappable battery. Bonus points if it is able to be used as an actual phone without a case to prevent it from dying instantly from a light breeze or some evil look by a person…

[-] Sabakodgo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Good, now add SD card please.

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

These days I don't buy a phone if they don't have a micro SD slot. Need that extra space without paying a bullshit upcharge for the larger model phone

[-] omenmis@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

tbh SD cards are out and mostly for power users, make them compatible with M2 drives :))

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

The performance would be wasted on android since file access has gotten so damn slow on recent versions. It would be awesome on a Linux phone though.

[-] Ishrin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone remember the LG V10? Mine came with an extra battery and a charging dock for the external batteries. Never plugged that phone up once in 2.5 years, just took 10 seconds to swap in a full battery.

[-] rysiek@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago
[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes please! That would seriously be a dream come true. At this point, battery packs are super small, but they still need to come with a wire even if it's just like a 6 inch wire. Being able to care one or two spare batteries I can swap out would be amazing.

[-] TheSageRedneck@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

European Union is doing the work the U.S. government should be.
U.S. government is too busy worrying about what people are doing in their bedrooms, libraries and doctor's offices.

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago

I don't really see the benefit anymore. My current device lasts ~40 hours on a charge, so I seldom find the need to swap anything out. Even if I did, those little USB battery packs that charge multiple devices are more practical. On a long flight, my wife and I just share one and it works on the Switch and tablet too.

Sealed devices have way better water resistance, less plastic makes the batteries themselves bigger, and wireless charging (especially with magnets) will be challenging to add to a battery that's also the back cover.

I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this, but, I don't really have any interest in a removable battery, especially if it involves other compromises on size, capacity, and features.

[-] ironhydroxide@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago

I see it as a longevity thing.

Sure you can bring another battery pack with you and charge your device from it, but at some point your internal battery will be degraded enough that it essentially needs to be plugged in to function, which is not feasible.

Being able to easily replace the thing in the device that wears out fastest is a good thing.

Granted I expect if this does go through, that mfg will make the battery hard to replace by other means (ie drm locks) making sure they can nickel and dime the consumer all the way.

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago

As long as they're reasonably replaceable, I don't see it as a big issue for longevity. I'd rather have a bigger battery (less plastic casing), wireless charging w/ magsafe, better water resistance, etc.

If the battery is toast 3 years in, I can just replace it, which I've done on other devices (including my last Pixel). It's not much more inconvenient than taking a car in for an oil change. Besides, on my 18 month old phone, capacity is at 95%. These days batteries often last as long as you'll need them.

I see the much bigger longevity issue on the software side. Many phones (especially budget ones) only get 1 major OS upgrade and very infrequent security upgrades.

[-] ndr@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mentioned MagSafe, so I assume you use an iPhone. I have an iPhone 12 mini and the battery life is awful. I love the phone, but I cannot recommend it to power users due to the battery life (the 13 mini should be significantly better, but I cannot confirm).

I've owned it for a bit over 2 years and I have 80% battery health, and I need to charge it multiple times per day. The battery is small and due to the form factor / design, it heats up quickly, further degrading the battery, especially if charging >5W.

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago

I suspect this plays into why small flagships are mostly a thing of the past.

[-] ndr@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I think it’s almost only because of an increasing amount of people using phones as their main multimedia and productivity device, hence the need for larger screens.

Such a shame, because battery aside (which is supposedly better in the 13), it’s still the most enjoyable phone I’ve had in a very long time. The size is extremely convenient for me and I believe iOS works best at this display size; even the home screen on an iPhone Pro Max shows the same amount of information as my Mini and likewise for the status bar (except for the models with a “Dynamic Island”).

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t say I use my phone for productivity, but I do just play and consume content with it when I’m board. So for me, the biggest screen I can fit and hold is the best one.

The added battery life is just gravy.

[-] olrik@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Being able to easily replace the thing in the device that wears out fastest is a good thing.

Yeah, it's like buying a car without being able to change the tyres.

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[-] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Sealed devices have way better water resistance

My dive computer has a user replaceable battery, and it's waterproof to more than 250ft.

This is just a non-argument to me.

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 1 points 1 year ago

And has a shit ton of casing.

[-] Spitfire@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t this affect water resistance? One argument for “sealed” devices is better protection against water/dust/debris.

I’m all for allowing easier replacements and repairs for the consumer (No reason a device should be unusable after a few years due to a battery), but I can see this issue being brought up.

[-] giloronfoo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Th Galaxy S5 and the Active versions before it were waterproof and had a removable back to get to the replaceable battery pack.

As an added bonus, the back had a rough, soft plastic surface so you could actually hold onto it without a case.

It was early in wireless charging, but the back could be replaced with one that haf the charging coil.

[-] coderipper@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

The big issue for me is waterproofing. It seems that this would present a significant opportunity for fluid ingress. Personally, that is a design trade I would be unwilling to make.

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[-] corporateHippie@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I recommend checking out Fairphone. The phone is completely modular so when something breaks, you can buy a new part and replace it yourself.

[-] Wiredfire@kayb.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I was put off when looking at a Fairphone and checking what spares they sold to find almost all of them sold out.. think it was the FP2 or maybe 3 at that point..

FP really needed to have their house in order way sooner. FP4 looks ok, but their “we’ll try our best” update schedule isn’t.. great..

I think they’re learning though and expect they’ll get it nailed. Just a shame they didn’t come out with such a solid proposition as Framework in the laptop world!

[-] Goopadrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, framework is an oddity when it comes to tech startups, they must have some sort of business magician over there making sure releases are timely and everything is mostly kept in stock

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