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Russian President Vladimir Putin can choose not to hold presidential elections next year because he will “obviously” win re-election, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said late Sunday.

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[-] The_one_and_only@feddit.nl 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That he will win them is indeed obvious. Since there have not been fair elections in Russia for quite some time, one cannot expect these to be fair.

[-] teegus@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago

Also, any relevant opposition tends to end up poisoned or jailed or both.

[-] Specific_Skunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hey now, windows and balconies were doing the heavy lifting (dropping?) earlier this year. Must have been a shortage in poison due to the embargos.

[-] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 1 year ago

Not having elections would make it more transparent to what is going on though. It should not be in Putin's favour to just stop having them. Maybe he can't afford the bill of having one this time.

[-] Exec@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago

What transparency do you want after all those jailings and murders?

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There is also the added cost of rigging all those machines and stuffing the ballot boxes.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 year ago
[-] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago

I’m surprised he waited so long, honestly. all this tip-toeing around rigged elections and shoving his political opponents out of windows into cups of polonium tea is lot of work for a guy who has to shop for gigantic conference tables all day and poop into a collection bag for his secret service guys to catalogue for whatever reason. when you combine all of that with his busy schedule of genociding Ukranians, well… obviously, one of those activities will to have to go. an evil autarch has only so much time in the day!

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

I think at this moment, there could be protests even with a rigged election. Take away the election entirely and maybe it's a lower chance of protests. No opposition to galvanize around, etc.

[-] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Kind of hard to be sarcastic when thinking about that

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
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[-] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago

That's when they stop pretending.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago

republicans creaming their pants rn.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They're taking notes!

[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Fucking lmaooo

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

It would be a “technical violation” of constitution, which apparently is not a crime.

\s

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Special election operation

[-] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

I just need you to um... find me um... 11,780 votes. C'mon bro, it's just a tiny bit of treason!

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

These people loves rules and laws, except of course if it applies to them.

[-] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think I understood that this was a reference to that other, very free country (the freeestest of all), where that previous president did...things.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

He has achieved conservatism's natural final form of "leadership".

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

I think at this point he knows that he can do fuck all without any Russian uprising.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

IMO we're more likely to see Russia break into a pile of separate republics than a big unified uprising. Maybe that pile of republics gets unified by a new dictator or Putin, maybe not. As it is, the core Russian ethnic group is shrinking while several of the other ethnicities are growing within their respective regions.

Eventually the Russians won't have enough young men to conscript and continue maintaining control of their already massive territory, which will lead to existing regional governments declaring independence while Russia proper will be able to do fuck all about it unless they wanna start nuking their neighbors.

[-] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 3 points 1 year ago

Russia break into a pile of separate republic is practically impossible, as it will cause colossal pain for literally all states. It is much easier to negotiate with one dictator with a nuclear button than with twenty.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look, I'm not arguing what I think makes sense for people to do, I'm thinking about how people in large groups tend to act, regardless of whether it's logical. Competing for power is inevitable whenever a centralized system can't maintain outright dominance.

[-] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 points 1 year ago

then you don't quite understand how the Russian economy works. The regions do not have their own economic system and their own army either. Both money and people pass through Moscow. how to find resources for the collapse in such conditions is unclear to me. If only you believe in the people in a single impulse organizing their own government. This is also very unlikely.

[-] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

“Our presidential election is not really democracy [...]"

Well, duh!

[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russian President Vladimir Putin can choose not to hold presidential elections next year because he will “obviously” win re-election, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said late Sunday.

I agree, why even bother?

If the russian population is eating the bullshit thrown before them, why hold elections... Save yourself the hassle and stop pretend to be a democracy.

And yeah, I imagine the TRUMP-MAGA-GOP is cumming right in their pants without even touching when Putin actually just calls of the elections.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 22 points 1 year ago

At least he should pretend to get the 101% of the votes

Too lazy

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Putin is widely expected to declare his bid for a sixth overall presidential term.

Oh, his "bid"? Is he gonna roll those dice one more time? See if he breaks lucky?

[-] cpo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

A "bid" would entail something like "chance". And that chance would not depend on the citizens, but on his cronies...

[-] lorkano@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

100% chance is still a chance

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

So, what happened with not serving more than 2 consecutive terms in Russia? Was it already removed?

[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

yeah when he became president again 6 years ago.

[-] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

Well you can always serve a term as prime minister, then be president again. Just make a small tweak of the office of Prime Minister to being the most powerful position, then when you are ready to be president again, change the most powerful position back to the office of presidency. No violation of consitution, just convienient changes on which office has the actual power.

[-] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 4 points 1 year ago

By the way, this was corrected in the amendments to the constitution 6 years ago. Just when Putin went for a new term "because the constitution was changed, which means it's like zeroing out the terms". If you interesting.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

guess he doesn't want to be prime minister again

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Well, in 2020 he did make it law that he was dictator for life. So, what's the point of going through the motions anymore?

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't feel bad for the Russian people.

They deserve this shit for putting up with this year after year as they could clearly see him grabbing more and more power. If they revolted against him 10 or even 15 years ago when he had a fraction of the power that he does now, it never would have gotten so bad and this pointless war in Ukraine might have never happened.

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[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

That shithole is nothing but a Potemkin country.

[-] LastSprinkles@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He's afraid Prigozhin will run.

[-] IncognitoWolf@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Ahh, I see Russia is playing Tropico in real life

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

all the manpower they would use to rig the elections is lying in ditches in Ukraine

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

When was the last time they actually held a real election???

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Back in '03

1803 that is.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I'm actually curious how open and fair elections would play out in Russia. I think he would probably still win comfortably if only for the limited amount of information a lot of Russians get. Hell, apparently even toilets are a luxury there.

[-] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Republican party leadership like

https://tenor.com/IvPt.gif

[-] Kata1yst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Something tells me they're going to test this theory lmao

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