Stranger on the internet: Let me tell you why you are wrong to enjoy this thing and should feel terrible for having the gall to even try.
Also, you cheaped out on buying that entry-level Hobbything 1000. You need to at least buy the expensive 3000 model to enjoy anything.
Yeah 3000 if you’re an idiot, for the price of the 3000 you’d be an idiot not to get the 3000m-ti, you won’t ever use the features but you’d be an idiot not to have them.
I used to always buy a K series chipset even though I never used the iGPU. It's literally like a 50-70 dollar savings depending on the chipset going from K to KF. I figured I'd rather have it for troubleshooting and not need it, rather than need it and not have it - but if you're using the iGPU chances are your dGPU is fucked in some capacity, so it's really pointless when you're trying to troubleshoot a graphics card problem.
There genuinely are cheap versions of stuff (like the Amazon basics hand plane) that suck so much they'll ruin the fun in something. But if you pick anything with a decent name in most hobbies, you'll be okay.
I do hate that whenever I mention I liked an older show I get "oooh, you know about the producer/lead actor/writer right?" And then I find out something awful and depressing.
How was everyone in show business so fucking terrible? Did Satan require a cosigner on any new media produced or something, like what the hell?
As a vinyl collector, it really feels impossible to completely avoid problematic older bands. So many of them pulled heinous shit, and often the bigger they were, the more opportunities they had to indulge their worst impulses. But how can we study history without acknowledging our ancestors accomplishments and failures?
I figure if they are dead, they can't hurt anybody anymore, and neither can they benefit. Same goes for buying used.
On Reddit I just read without logging in. It was nice. I'm trying to help build communities on Lemmy, so I'm posting and commenting.
Since doing that, I've been told I'm enjoying my hobby wrong, that my friends enjoy their hobby wrong, the links I researched for a comment thread are wrong (without references to correct info), and that I'm probably wrong about how I want to live.
I know I should have thicker skin, but the slow drip of unfriendliness is alienating.
I wanted to just upvote this and move on, but I feel like that would be a disservice to you because I feel the same way about commenting.
I would say to just ignore the negative comments and continue to post. good people should not tear each other down like you describe. you never truly know who is replying to you, it could be a kid or someone that has some issues that need to be addressed.
I understand its much easier said than done, but training yourself to have thicker skin is like a muscle, just gotta keep going out there and train it lol. good luck!
Thanks. I've been blocking unfriendly posters. That's working pretty well.
You're not blocking them correctly then, because you're doing your hobby wrong. /s
PS: Good people don't criticize others like you're describing. You're doing the right thing by shrinking their reach into a list of blocked users.
Have you had positive experiences too, or are they primarily negative?
I've had positive experiences, mostly in the shit-posting and meme communities.
Maybe it's just me, but the negative experiences are way more memorable than the positive ones.
Yeah, I definitely feel that way. Positive experiences just feel ambient, and negative experiences feel like distinct events.
Still, I have the sense that Lemmy is mostly positive, even though there are jerks. I have alot of comments with, like... 7 upvotes and 1 downvote, and of course the downvote sticks out in my mind... But then again, way more people were supportive than negative, and that's kinda cool.
That's just how "real" fans are.
There's nothing real about them though, except their malice.
I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck, but I've stopped trying to tell people how to enjoy their media. The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.
The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.
Exactly this.
I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck
If someone can be friendly while they're joking around like that, I'm all for it. But it's hard to get that subtlety into a comment.
I have a motorcycle. It's a Harley-Davidson. Immediately, everyone is picturing a large and unpleasant looking bearded man riding a huge, noisy, vibrating, chrome bedazzled air cooled motorcycle without a helmet from one bar to the next.
My harley makes about as much noise as a Toyota Camry. I wear full protective gear when riding it, including a bright and attention-getting helmet. It doesn't get ridden to bars, because drinking interferes with my motorcycle addiction.
The large and unpleasant looking bearded man part is accurate, though.
I never understood the " I'm so badass I'm going to ride without the only thing that can prevent my skull from cracking like an egg" I guess live fast die young, but in the event you don't die the only way we will know where your mouth is, it will be following the feeding tube.
Anyways safe rides dude.
I mean, some dudes won't use environmentally friendly grocery bags because they're afraid to appear "gay". Some men's masculinity is oh so fragile. Like a human skull in a motorcycle accident perhaps.
Easiest way to start hating your new hobby is visiting it's subreddit.
It's obvious for video games because you can assume anyone that wants to be active on a specific game sub is probably a try hard that talks about the meta, or max DPS builds, or other annoying stuff. But then you visit something like the carbon steel pan subreddit, or grilled cheese, and you're continually assaulted with this idea that there are only specific pans and oils that are correct, or that your grilled cheese isn't actually a grilled cheese because it was cooked too close to an open pack of salami.
Video game communities suck, and it makes playing them worse.
You play an FPS and everyone uses the meta gun at the time, then it gets nerfed and they use the new meta gun. Same with RTS and any other multiplayer game. Somehow StarCraft 1 pulled out a perfect rock paper scissors balance, but nothing else really has that so meta is what people do.
And because everyone is so busy grinding and min maxing, that's what the game developers design for now, and it sucks the fun out of games because you just grind hours to get some new items to have the best items in the game.
Occasionally game communities are good. The Chivalry 2 subreddit had a bot that would use GPT to answer questions and then on every post go on about how the polehammer is the best weapon in the game, which was so over the top it made fun of the whole meta idea. The Breath of the Wild communities doing crazy rube Goldberg machines are always fun. And I'll never not enjoy the weird hellscapes people create in the Sims.
I enjoyed Cyberpunk at launch. Forgive me...
I did too... Even with a handful of weird bugs, it was an awesome experience (on PC)
Fandom is like a coin. A coin that has a shiny surface on one side and a dirty, rusty, smelly layer on the other. Some fans can have the passion and diligence to elevate the media while being respectful, while a lot of fans can be just down right hateful because it's easier to do so while contributing to nothing
This is precisely why I don't give a shit about "weekly episode discussions" and refuse to watch any show until it's available in its entirety.
Looking at VTuber fandom out there. Two weeks ago, a famous female VTuber called Ironmouse (who, BTW, has an immune disease and cannot leave her house) won an award, and you know what the fans of other candidates did? They sent her death threats.
Oh boy 😬
Star Wars for real.
You haven't lived until you've been drug into an argument about lightsaber forms.
I like some manga and anime, but I usually come away with an uncomfortable feeling when I interact with passionate fans of manga or anime. To me, the vast majority is crap, but there are some good gems here and there. Hardcore fans though are all about the most boring or weird shit, and even have a slightly off sense of humor. I’m sure I’d be seen as some filthy casual who just follows the mainstream shit, like how people outside of RPGs only see DnD as the entirety of the role-playing hobby. It’s probably always going to happen between casuals and passionate fans of any topic.
Oh man, I really like One Punch Man, and I've always been a fan of the whole "poking fun at anime tropes thing", but if you spend 30 mins on the subreddit for that subject you find a lot of people that don't really see that the "child that's actually much older than they look" thing isn't a justifiable excuse for filling your sub with subjective images of a child.
At a certain point, it basically became trolling to raise that these people needed their hard drives checked by law enforcement professionals, and less to do with the thing that I actually enjoyed.
Homestuck
This rings especially true for Rick and Morty, and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Both are good shows ruined by obnoxious fandoms
Me and the Apex Legends community
Me: This seems like a cool game, and it's free, and it's made by the Titanfall people.
Apex Legends community: Autistic screeching
Star Wars fans spending days dissecting the intricacies of a fantasy space opera is highly amusing.
Shit, that's what they USED to do, back in the good old days. Now, it's just "WAAAAAH, WAAAAH, WAAAAHHHHH, THERE ARE TOO MANY ASIANS AND LESBIANS AND BLACKS!"
You realize how long it's been since I've seen grown men get to the point of threatening each other's safety, over whether or not the hyperspace drives in Star Wars are more realistic than the warp drive from Star Trek?
I never thought I'd miss that shit, but I miss it.
Also, like, can I remind everyone of the cantina scene, from the first fucking movie? NOTHING about that scene says "these producers and writers don't really buy into the whole concept of diversity,"
Motherfuckers, there were two different kinds of blue alien, aliens with actual butt-faces, a WEREWOLF, some guys with insectoid multi-faceted eyeballs, and a guy with an ultramodernist chair for a fucking head. And the biggest asshole in the place was the fat white guy who didn't like a specific group (droids) and wouldn't let them in his bar.
But now, some of y'all think "wokeness" in Star Wars is some kind of NEW thing?
I think, honestly, the worst thing about Star Wars fans discussing the intricacies of Star Wars is that there are no intricacies and it's concerning how many people still missed the points.
Light Side Good Dark Side Bad Shut The Fuck Up About Gray Jedi And The Empire Doing Nothing Wrong
Oh yeah. I did not hang out in Star Trek groups for many years despite being a fan - I didn't near to hear a million times why Enterprise sucked or Discovery sucks or whatever. I enjoyed both and don't need to listen to someone screeching about continuity errors or whatever in a fictional TV show.
And they can't help themselves, more than once I've made a comment like this only to have someone reply, "Well, Discovery sucks because blah blah blah!", and it's like, "THANKS FOR DEMONSTRATING THE POINT I WAS MAKING. YOU'RE THE PROBLEM. YOU."
No one hates Star Trek more than Star Trek fans.
I joined a group on facebook that is called "Wholesomeposting" and that kind of shit is not allowed. It's much nicer that way. The noise level on Lemmy hasn't been too bad, fortunately...so far.
I love comedy podcasts, The Jeselnek and Rosenthal Vanity Project, a favourite. His style is dark humour and it seems that a significant proportion of the audience actually believe some of the things he jokes about. I think it's one of the reasons they rarely field audience questions and never phone calls.
Comedy can be a minefield for this type of stuff. I'm a big fan of the comedians that can dance around the edge, or seem to cross it and then bring the audience back, eg: Mark Normand, Bill Burr, Jimmy Carr, a lot of the old Norm MacDonald stuff, etc.
But I'll see some fan compilations with titles or comments that make it clear that they don't get the style of humor... Like "[comedian] DESTROYS feminists!!1!"
When, to anyone with a reasonable level of social intelligence, it's abundantly clear that that's not what's happening.
For many “fans,” it seems like it’s trendy to be cynical and negative.
They can’t just enjoy a new Trek, or Star Wars, or Marvel movie, without picking it apart and finding everything to complain about - and then criticizing not only the show/movie, but the more positive fans who are willing to overlook such trivial issues and just have fun.
Not to mention the really awful subgroups of fans who will hate any genre where a woman hero or a minority hero gets time in the spotlight. They tank viewer ratings, harass the stars on social media, just go out of their way to ruin it for everyone. Totally toxic.
I’ve had the opposite experience. But then again I don’t really watch media without interacting and falling in love with the fandom first.
I wouldn’t have watched Star Trek without Trekkies being awesome.
Fanbases and fandoms are poison, thanks to social media. You know exactly what I mean.
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