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"Allegations"? The UN has condemned them for war crimes already, over a month ago. There are no allegations here, only statements of fact.
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I'm sure Israel would love it if Hamas met them on an open battlefield, or even had nicely organized military bases they could attack.
Too bad Hamas is literally using human shields and operating out of civilian buildings (schools, hospitals, apartments) in order to draw exactly this kind of ire from the international community when Israel tries to fight them. This isn't their first rodeo, they're intentionally doing this to make Israel look bad and there's not a damn thing Israel can do about it other than back off completely (and let Hamas keep attacking them)
Does it suck for the civilians in Gaza? Yes
Would it suck more for the civilians in Israel if they just kept letting the terrorists attack repeatedly? Also yes.
Do you think the UK wouldn't start bombing buildings and attacking back if terrorists in Scotland started doing the same thing? We already know the answer to this, it's literally what happened in Northern Ireland. Thousands of Civilians died in that fighting too.
Do you think the US wouldn't start attacking back if a group broke off and attacked them? 50,000 civilians died during the Civil war.
"This genocide is similar to other atrocities, whats the issue?"
You're either an idiot, brainwashed, or wildly self centered. Regardless, you're promoting death of innocent humans. Shut up or wake up, thats the best decision you could make in life right now if this is seriously your take.
How would you stop Hamas from attacking Israel then?
I'd love to hear your idea for a peace deal that Hamas would actually accept and 100% stop their attacks on Israeli Civilians for.
Assume you could give them anything Israel has the power to realistically do.
Don't forget that Iran is paying Hamas (and Hezbollah in Yemen) to attack Israel when you make your calculations...
Recognize that the Palestinians are people with legitimate grievances and enter into peace dialogues with that at the front of your mind and the recognition that you will have to give an equal amount for what you ate asking them to give up.
Negotiate in good faith. It honestly isn't a hard or complicated thought.
It only is complicated of you honestly believe Palestinians are less than you as a people.
’d love to hear your idea for a peace deal that Hamas would actually accept and 100% stop their attacks on Israeli Civilians for.
Remember the ceasefire deal of 2008 and 2012? Those.
If side A uses a human shield, and side B immediately kills that human without hesitation, side B has made a much more evil decision.
Nothing justifies genocide. Period.
Your analogy is poor.
Hamas just shot your wife and child, and is now hiding behind their wife and children telling you that you can't shoot back. They will shoot you if you try to get to them directly, and they will shoot your sibling next week if you don't stop them, and your cousin the week after. Their wife is also supporting their killing of your family.
What would you do to stop them attacking you?
Israel tried building walls, Hamas started shooting rockets over it. Israel built a missile defence system, and Hamas breached the barriers and massacred civilians anyways.
859 Israeli civilians died on Oct 7th.
Fuck Hamas, Gaza has made itself a bed of terrorism. These are the consequences.
900 vs what is it now, 20,000?
Your math is poor.
My math? Since when do wars have to be even? Usually one side completely destroys the other... that's how winning happens.
This isn't an eye for an eye, it's attempting to eliminate a massive terrorist organization hiding within and with the support of the civilian population.
Israel has killed at least 8000 children in two months through indiscriminate bombing and forcing doctors to abandon babies in incubation units so they starve and die alone and rot.
Fuck the Israeli government. Israel has made itself a hotbed of terrorism.
This is literally the same logic. Learn to think better. Stop justifying genocide.
Like, I know that, because you're a supporter of ethnostates you're already arguing from such a bad faith position this almost isn't worth it, but, even being the genius you are, certainly you would admit that the IDF would never allow Hamas to have actual established military bases even when not at war, right? You do get that? As soon as Hamas said "this is a military training facility" the Israelis would blow it up.
You're acting like there's some way for Hamas to carry out conventional warfare against a vastly more well-resourced occupying force.
I’m sure Israel would love it if Hamas met them on an open battlefield, or even had nicely organized military bases they could attack.
Uh... Hamas is a resistance movement, not an army. They can't have these things.
You would have, as Israel did, supported the apartheid south African government and condemned the ANC for being violent.
Zogby of Zogby polling did multiple polls of both Palestinians and Israelis and found that both supported a single state solution.
The difference is that the Palestinians were talking about a single state with equal rights for all, and the Israelis were talking about a single state where all the Palestinians were driven out.
You want peace? Recognize you've fucked an ethnic group over, and try to make reparations for what was done. Include them as an equal voice in the process.
And before you talk about how they're enemies and you can't make peace with them, enemies are explicitly who you make peace with. You don't make peace with friends.
this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2023
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