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After approving blessings for same-sex couples, Pope asks Vatican staff to avoid 'rigid ideologies' (www.independent.co.uk)

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Pope Francis has urged Vatican bureaucrats to avoid “rigid ideological positions” that prevent them from understanding today’s reality

Pope Francis urged Vatican bureaucrats Thursday to avoid “rigid ideological positions” that prevent them from understanding today’s reality, an appeal made days after he formally allowed priests to bless same-sex couples in a radical change of Vatican policy.

Francis used his annual Christmas greeting to the Holy See hierarchy to encourage the cardinals, bishops and laypeople who run the Vatican to listen to one another and to others so they can evolve to truly offer service to the Catholic Church.

Speaking in the Hall of Blessings, Francis told them it was important to keep advancing and growing in their understanding of the truth. Fearfully sticking to rules may give the appearance of avoiding problems but only ends up hurting the service that the Vatican Curia is called to give the church, he said.

“Let us remain vigilant against rigid ideological positions that often, under the guise of good intentions, separate us from reality and prevent us from moving forward,"the pope said. "We are called instead to set out and journey, like the Magi, following the light that always desires to lead us on, at times along unexplored paths and new roads.”

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“Let us remain vigilant against rigid ideological positions that often, under the guise of good intentions, separate us from reality and prevent us from moving forward,"the pope said.

"We are called instead to set out and journey, like the Magi, following the light that always desires to lead us on, at times along unexplored paths and new roads.”

Progressives and advocates for greater LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church hailed Francis' declaration as a long-overdue gesture of welcome and acceptance.

Citing the teachings of the modernizing Second Vatican Council, he urged the assembled prelates to listen to one another, discern decisions and then journey forward, without being tied to preconceived prejudices.

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago

That bit about condoms?

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

As someone who went to Catholic school for 12 years:

wut?

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Watch christians and catholics ignore everything this bullshit artist says. The pope has minimal control, refuses to use it, and reigns over one of the largest religious hate groups on the planet.

Their entire religion is a 'rigid ideological position". How the fuck are people in that religion supposed to ignore those when the entire religion is one? Just more stupid contradictory illogic that doesn't mean a thing.

[-] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Their entire religion is a 'rigid ideological position".

Don't forget you can be Christian without being homophobic. The bible doesn't say gay marriage is illegal. It's just those bigots that seem to think so because they're ignorant and haven't actually read the fucking thing.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Why did they adopt "magi" for the Wiseman? When historically it has been used to describe a magician, alchemist, witch, etc.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago

what he really means is avoid “rigid ideological positions” like "don't rape children"

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