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[-] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 26 points 1 year ago

Cool. How about 'actually speaking?'

[-] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Actually speaking, any climate correction would cause a dip in corporate profits, and we'd rather everyone die than lose any money.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Sometimes you need theatre to influence trends, science communication is so incredibly important. Practically speaking is less than the bare minimum.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's doing things which are almost entirely demand-side and incentive-oriented. Getting to where we need to be means including extraction cuts and penalties for burning, but we don't have the votes for those in Congress yet.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Wow, totally delusional. Biden wants all of the credit for doing none of the work.

How is handing Manchin, chief dem obstructionist for meaningful climate reform, his pet Mountain Valley Pipeline with all of the environmental regs removed so they can ram it through with maximum risk to the environment, anything close to “declaring a climate emergency”?!

What a joke Joe.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

When did he declare a climate emergency?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

He's taken a string of actions, including negotiating the Inflation Reduction Act and enacting power plant and automotive emissions regulations designed to shift the US off fossil fuels.

This stuff isn't perfect; there are steps I'd like to see that don't have the Congressional support it would take to actually do them.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Can he declare a climate emergency without Congress?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

He can declare, but I don't see how any action he might take under such a declaration survives challenge under the current Supreme Court.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This is how Biden can successfully use his power as President. Force climate deniers to go to Supreme Court and argue we aren’t in a climate emergency, and then light them up on their obvious hypocrisy the entire time. Biden could make this a centerpiece of his ‘24 campaign and win in a landslide. The problem is, he doesn’t actually want to change anything, and so he’s content to “practically” do something, or some such nonsense.

[-] zout@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Don't underestimate the number of people who don't care for the climate because China, corporations, illegal aliens and brown people, freedom and whatever else.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Valid skepticism, but I truly believe this is one of our best opportunities to break our fellow Americans free of the conservative media echo chamber - a common desire to preserve nature and be good stewards of our planet for generations to come. It’s true a lot of them are lost cause deplorables, but enough of them aren’t for it to be possible to forge a new way forward, together.

[-] zout@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not American but Dutch, but it is what I see over here "Our government is spending billions to reduce the temperature by 0.0003 degrees, they're all mad! Like we're going to save the world while the rest keeps on going! How am I going to keep going on holiday to Italy if my taxes are spent this way!"

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well my Dutch friend, we’re all in this boat (planet earth) together. Climate change isn’t something that just USA or just Netherlands is going to solve, we all have to come together for this one.

Conservative opinions like you describe here are sadly amusing…it’s going to be very difficult to take that holiday when Venice/Naples are under water!

I think it’s no coincidence that corporate fascists have risen up all at once across the world in the last 10 years. This is the last gasp of the old ways, desperate to maintain their grip on the helm to chart our future course, invariably towards destruction. We will show them a better way, we can be better.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The conservatives will rule against the environment every single time. Destroying the planet and killing everything on it is part of the core of being a conservative. They "roll coal", kill animals for pleasure and brag about how they would love to kill any person who isn't part of their social group. Death is who they are. We already know how they will rule when life or death of the planet is in the balance.

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