NYT declares that US is now a pariah state (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 10 months ago

If you count all the UN votes, the US already was a pariah since a while, it’s just harder to hide this time around. The US like to pretend that their actions have widespread support usually but this time it’s clear even to libs that neither the peoples of Palestine nor the global south support them .

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago

For sure, I think it's mostly notable that mainstream US media is now starting to acknowledge how isolated US has become geopolitically.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 31 points 10 months ago

US politicians are so far removed from the will of the people that I think it's time we start being more accurate with how we refer to US policy and politicians vs the US public.

US politicians support the genocide in Palestine.

The US public (mostly) opposes it.

US policy is privatized healthcare.

The US public (mostly) wants socialized/single-payer healthcare.

At this point, the US government and the people it claims to represent are two almost completely separate entities, connected only by law. The public has to abide by the laws politicians enact, but it's a one-way street; politicians can (and do) safely ignore the public without any repercussions.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

US People vs. US Capitalists is probably more accurate.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Famous anti capitalist US people.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah. The US has had its anti-Capitalist movements though. And the US is just beyond drowned in Capitalist propaganda and people are infamously un(der)educated as well. In my experience organizing, people go against their own interests out of ignorance and fear.

Either way, it is the Capitalist class manipulating the 'famous anti-capitalist US people', even if the latter falsely thinks it's in their own interest.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it’s time we start being more accurate with how we refer to US policy and politicians vs the US public.

I won't. Still way too many neoliberal toerags still wheeling out the "vote blue no matter who" horseshit for me to see any meaningful divide between the average lib and their leaders. When I start seeing settlers ACTUALLY disavowing the settler line, we'll talk again about the subject then-- but not until.