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150 Palestinian prisoners are being released as part of Israel and Hamas’s recent hostage deal. But thousands more remain behind bars.

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

The fastest way to not be subjected to your enemy's military courts is to not be at war with them.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And the fastest way to not be at war with a genocidal occupier like Israel is to just die, I guess?

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Suing for peace and being willing to make concessions also ends deaths related to warfare.

If Palestine remains belligerent, they won't be genocided, that's more of Hamas' thing, but I suspect Palestine will eventually be left with no territory.

Perhaps 70+ years of intifada and failed wars against an enemy they can't hope to defeat isn't the best strategy.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 11 months ago

Concessions with a genocidal occupier who doesn’t want peace, how?

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

First of all, high civilian casualties is not genocide. That word means something specific, something Israel is not doing.

Second of all, they do want peace, but it needs to be on their terms, which makes sense given that they hold all the realpolitik cards. I believe they are willing to negotiate but not with terrorist organizations like Hamas or Fatah.

Netanyahu will be voted out soon and I suspect whoever replaces him will be more amenable to terms, unless of course these ongoing attacks on civilians move them more rightward.

The alternative, I suspect, is Palestine loses everything and there is no Palestine. Even unconditional surrender would likely lead to a better outcome than this.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Those casualties are not by accident. Civilians and journalists are getting targeted, and the justifications are as follows: "The 400 innocent civilians had a Hamas leader amongst them", "The convoy of people fleeing to the area we told them to flee to, had Hamas militants" (No weapons or evidence was presented), and "The hospital was housing a Hamas headquarters" (shows an amount of Aks that keeps duplicating every time they re-upload the video, and two bottles of WD-40 that appear two times in two different locations).

Their own terms are to be allowed to enter any region at any time and kill, incarcerate, torture, or rape whoever they like, for their court to acquit them later. That's not peaceful, and it's absolutely not gonna make the people of Palestine any more peaceful or accepting towards the occupiers.

Whoever is the prime minister of this "nation" never mattered. They're all criminals, and none of them would realistically offer peace.

Palestine losing or keeping all of it's territory doesn't mean shit when they are not allowed to govern it anyway. Any government put there will be for show. As soon as it starts governing by building infrastructure, organizing a police force, or a military, it's gonna become a terrorist organization, and get crippled by blockades and attacks targeting it's facilities and infrastructure.

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