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[-] Othello@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

not an argument but im avoiding calling certain family members. im still mad about what she said about my mom.

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Sometimes I wish my family had political beliefs beyond local politicians they like or don't like. Not very often but sometimes.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Yea i wish i could openly praise ansarallah in my family reunions 😔

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[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Got into a debate with a friend about voting for Joe Biden.

I said I'd never vote for someone with full throated support for genocide and I would never budge regardless of harm reduction bullshit. She said "What's more important, American workers or people in Gaza?" Then she immediately changed it to "They both support genocide, so lets at least get the one with better worker rights."

Behind every mayo is the mask of an absolute fascist dictator.

[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Cause worker rights are so good under democrats lol

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

I have heard people complimenting Biden over vague ideals way too much. Also, someone got a RBG mug. liberalism

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[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

My parents were a bit confused by my choice of having a lasagna for dinner instead of turkey or ham, but i'm also an entire flight away from them so shrug-outta-hecks

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

"I just like lasagna better" is an easy cover

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[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

lasagna is x100 better than traditional xmas dinner any day, in my opinion

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah, this is my gutbuster lasagna, with 4 hour sauce, bechamel, and each lasagna sheet was dipped in pesto. All completely vegan, and it's basically cooked in a trough it's so thick. Served with a nice persimmon and greens salad with balsamic vinaigrette, bruschetta, and mixed olives. I'm going to bed stuffed.

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[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago
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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Pretty bad one for pre-christmas get together. Grandma fear mongered about fent, dad and uncle were talking completely about chud politics and how the abortion rights protection referendum would allow abortion up to the date of birth, and sister started ranting about trans people.

We were at a restaurant, so I just announced that the food was making me sick and waited it out in the car.

[-] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just sat at home all day because most of my family caught Covid. covid-cool

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

My nearest family aren’t very chuddy and I’m the one that gets the most heated out of em so they’re cowed it isn’t really an issue at mine. Interesting to see all these examples.

Only one who can be a bit off is nan who has Alzheimer’s but somewhat strange beliefs. She loves the Somali, Kurdish and Iranian immigrants she interacts with but hisses about Finns.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

She loves the Somali, Kurdish and Iranian immigrants she interacts with but hisses about Finns.

Based

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Not an argument but my leftist dad has been obnoxious since he came to Taiwan. He's never forgiven them for aiding Guatemala's right-wing dictators. So he keeps making jokes about Taiwan being the rebellious province of China in front of my wife's family. Thankfully she's the only one in her family that can speak fluent Spanish and just chuckles at them.

[-] CatratchoPalestino@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

thats funny because my grandma loves taiwan for the exact same reason. she is also always talking about how great the united fruit company is which is a hilariously out-of-touch opinion

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[-] nothx@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Avoided extended family entirely this year. My partner and I hung out at home for the holidays, with Christmas movies on in the background and cookies in the oven. It was wonderful and relaxing without the social obligations and expectations.

Of course we got a little bit of the guilt trip, but we got COVID 2 weeks ago and that put a real damper on everything. Between social anxiety and still feeling like dogshit, we didn’t let the guilt get to us.

Fuck everyone, do what you want!

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Not an argument, but good lord Charlie Brown Christmas is incredibly misogynistic

[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To push back, Lucy is the character that gives Charlie Brown the director gig. I don’t think it passes the bechdel test but my reading of the whole thing is an expression of the felt alienation of growing up in capitalist America. The little girls in the story act as a sort of Greek choruses for the feelings of insecurity and inadequacy that are brought on by the “commercialism” (re: Capitalism) ruining Christmas. Lucy also has a great moment at her therapy stand where, after collecting payment and celebrating it, she begins to try and diagnose Charlie Brown, implying that alone will be helpful. The whole exchange does a great job of mirroring the transactional and alienating feeling of therapy under capitalism. And the punchline at the end is that Lucy, a child, wants real estate for Christmas! Hilarious!

None of this is to say Charles Schulz wasn’t a misogynist, he probably was, 1965 was definitely a misogynistic time. I just feel it’s an oversimplification to call Charlie Brown Christmas misogynistic. There’s a reason that it had an unbroken string of Christmas airings for 5 decades. Something about it resonates with people. Again, there’s undeniably deeply flawed gender politics suffusing the whole thing, but it is an artifact of the past and so that’s part of the story of it.

I guess I’m writing all this because I don’t always feel the positives outweigh the negatives when appreciating historical media. I feel very strongly that the artistic value of A Charlie Brown Christmas vastly outweighs whatever ambient misogyny is embedded within it.

The choice to make many of the most critical comments come from little girls is surely gender coded in a problematic way, and yet it also reads as very realistic. Little kids can be very mean! Especially to each other. If memory serves the male characters are also very unkind to Charlie Brown.

The pacing, the music, the humor, The way it captures the American ennui that is the background radiation of so many American lives. Certainly flawed, but beautiful in a way I really love. If that’s a bad take than you can keep your good ones.

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[-] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago

Didn't have an argument because I had to remain shut the whole dinner. But let me tell you if I had remained there 1 more fucking minute I would probably be hated by now.

They didn't touch on the Palestinian genocide or anything of that sort, but the antivax narrative, which is new comming from them, and the stuff they said about the 2 poorest neighbourhoods in our city is disgusting. Not only that, but there's also their praise of rich people, which is just, uuuhgh.

New Year's eve is gonna be worse, I can tell already.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

I'm glad my family never seems to discuss politics. The most political my family's get together got was my stepdad doing a Biden impression.

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[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

explaining to my family that the reason i dont wear a wedding ring isnt because im a slut but because im not into consumerist rocks that cost 20k usd. im a fucking communist how do they not comprehend this ive said it a billion times. these same people will complain about shit like hijabs

also, despite them being christian, they were bewildered that i spend so much time helping homeless people. theyre so profit brained that jesus would lynch them for calling themselves christian

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

I won't be having any familial conversations this year, but I imagine it would go like, "of course COVID is 'back', it's an election year smuglord"

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

None to report this year, but mostly because my brothers and I played videogames all day. Very rare indeed.

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