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Is DNS Bloat too? (lemmy.sdf.org)
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[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 208 points 11 months ago

If you can't remember the IP address of every site you'd like to visit, you don't deserve the internet.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 119 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Pro tip, You don't have to remember it. I have all my favorite IPs in a nice address book, keep it in my drawer next to my passwords

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

My DNS Rolodex is beside my slide rule and abacus.

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[-] snaggen@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

My company actually used a whiteboard instead of a DNS for our internal network. We used it as a temp solution during setup, then 5 years later it was still in use. It worked quite well.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 86 points 11 months ago

Oh, you like the internet? Name every IP address!

[-] mons@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago

0.0.0.0/0

Don't even get me started with IPv6!

[-] famfo@social.dn42.us 16 points 11 months ago
[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I know this one! All credit goes to FauxPseudo@lemmy.world

"^\s*((([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){7}([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){6}(:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){5}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,2})|:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){4}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,3})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4})?:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){3}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,4})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,2}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){2}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,5})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,3}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){1}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,6})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,4}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(:(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,7})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,5}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:)))(%.+)?\s*$"
[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 63 points 11 months ago

That is a forkbomb and you can't convince me otherwise

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago

i dare you to run it

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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago
[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the heads up, let me know if it’s fixed now.

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[-] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago
[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 11 months ago

Unironically, I used to remember 3.
2 for servers with internet radios and 1 for google. But I forgot. Except 149.13.0.82.

[-] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I remember 1 of the Google dns ones, only because when trouble shooting network issues it is my go to ip to ping so I know the instant I am connected again.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 11 months ago

Oh, I forgot about DNS servers. Then I remember:
8.8.8.8 - Google
9.9.9.9 - Quad9
1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 - Regular Cloudflare
1.1.1.2 and 1.0.0.2 - Cloudflare "Malware blocking"
1.1.1.3 and 1.0.0.3 - Cloudflare "Malware and adult content blocking"
45.90.30.180 and 45.90.28.180 - NextDNS

And I think 2960:fe::fe is also Quad9, but I'll have to check. Nope, it's 2620:fe::fe. So just the ones above.

[-] Mixel@szmer.info 5 points 11 months ago

Always have a few paperstickers with My favourite webpages.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 58 points 11 months ago
[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

That's a cat who knows his networks

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Holy crap, this ... This ... Is very accurate...

[-] pruneaue@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago

Why are catboys/girls and furries always the best at explaining stuff succinctly?? Lmao

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[-] ajmaxwell@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Thank you for this

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[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Tbh, if you can't tap out Ethernet frames with a Morse key and decode the response by watching the blinking of an LED wired to the RX pair then you really don't deserve to be on the internet. Git Gud.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 11 months ago

Okey, I don't get it. What's wrong with DNS?

[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

When it breaks, it isn't always obvious or easy to fix, but can cause problems for anything that has to talk to anything else. The biggest thorn it puts in my side is that short names [ThisPC] are served differently than fqdn [ThisPC.MyDomain.com]. Does NotMyApp use short or FQDN to resolve other machines? I don't find out until the Wireshark.

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[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago

My prediction is that we'll go DNSSEC globally when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption. It sucks how many just don't care enough.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 28 points 11 months ago

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption

At the current speed that would approximately be in 2087.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 21 points 11 months ago

Whoa there, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[-] risencode@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption.

After my death then. Alright, carry on.

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

The abysmal adoption of DNSSEC is just embarrassing, and I haven’t heard any good arguments for why we shouldn’t do it. There’s one blog post that gets passed around as justification for not adopting DNSSEC, but it doesn’t really go into any technical detail and is mostly just the author saying “I’m scared of governments and TLDs”… which is maybe fair, but you still have to trust them for regular CA certs and everything, so why not make thr base secure?

Honestly, I might care slightly more about DNSSEC than IPv6 adoption… IPv4 exhaustion and NATing everywhere sucks, but the fact that you can’t trust DNS is like… insane.

[-] mactan@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago

I have no doubt in my mind that there's some subset of the suckless crowd that thinks dns is bloat

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We should remove all those useless microservices! /s

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 21 points 11 months ago

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

This might be funnier than all those Facebook accounts with warnings about "I do not authorize anyone to use my photos!"

Because they're trying to copyright an internet comment that they posted on a service hosted by someone else, with a creative commons license attached. It's like a step up in knowing how shit works, but still not knowing enough.

If you really want ownership over what you say.... don't post it on the fucking internet.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 20 points 11 months ago

I mean, not really. You own the stuff you create regardless of who's hosting it. Microsoft doesn't own the copyright for the millions of projects hosted on GitHub either.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

So is other guy gonna sue me now and win because I just copy and pasted what they said? This is a joke.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 16 points 11 months ago

I mean, probably not. That's such a short post, chances are courts wouldn't find it copyrightable. And obviously attaching a license at the end of your comments is useless in practice, because no one on the internet actually properly engages with copyright law. Plus suing over copy-pasting someone's social media post is dumb as hell and no one does that, tho I do think you could technically do it and win, because current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago

current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

So true.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago

My lawyers will argue that this willful infringement of my rights as the orignal author of the famous 1997 Internet comment "So true" means that you now owe me $4000000 in damages, but I'll settle for one bitcoin.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

And yet Microsoft made Copilot, and there are currently lots of clueless programmers out there using it to inject code with god knows what licenses into their company's software.

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[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago

Wait lol are people posting that to their comments to use it as claimed ownership? I did not realize that was the intent there

[-] callyral@pawb.social 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Are you trying to... copyright your comment? IPoAC existed prior to your comment.

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Lol ... DNS is one of the pillars upon which the internets tands, a crumbling mess of a pillar but I'm sure glad we don't have a name system built on hosts files 😹

[-] famfo@social.dn42.us 18 points 11 months ago

As we all know, it's always DNS.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

It's insecure, which lets governments like China poison it. They straight up block encrypted DNS

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

The EU regularly forces DNS server operators to remove entries or redirect certain domains. It's super easy to circumvent but most users don't know that.

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[-] madargon@is-a.cat 10 points 11 months ago

@scroll_responsibly Laughing in my self-hosted services, on my VPS which use only IP address :blobcatjoy:​

*Currently every service is also available via IPv6 :3

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago
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