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Btw i used Arch! (lemmy.world)
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[-] udon@lemmy.world 117 points 10 months ago

Actually the Arch penguins jump happily on their own

[-] Pirasp@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

And then they go on to fight the predators to make it safe for the rest

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 months ago

And they send maps that the others can use.

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The documentary host went on:

After hearing about their "totally riced" setup for hours, the exhausted predator dies a painless death in the icy waters. A mercy the breedable Rust peers of the Arch user, drunk on their freshly claimed victory, will not share. Already displaying socks as part of their mating ritual, no baby-faced creature that knows its way around a terminal is safe. They are not taken by force however. Rather they freeze, smitten by the confidence the incredibly annoying apex predator radiates. Feeling used, but also strangely satisfied, the confused ~~boy~~ is left wondering why they aren't using Arch, when Wiki and the AUR are so incredibly useful. Maybe it's that symbiosis that keeps them together: Curiosity, Fear and the common Arch user's incredible displays of power.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago

Arch? That's so 2020. With NixOS you can just rollback if you make a mistake.

https://i.redd.it/tlmg36zoel671.png

I use NixOS BTW.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

You can do that with any distro and BTRFS.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

That's just a snapshot. What NixOS allows you to create configuration that will deploy your OS configured the way you like, possibly post it on places like GitHub deeply a new machine confused the exact same way.

You can even do something like this: https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

You can do the same with void-mklive. Boot, install, you have the same system that is on the live USB on your HDD/SSD.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I've never used btrfs. Can you give an example of an error and how it is corrected?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

BTRFS and ZFS filesystems offer lightweight snapshots. So you can save the state of the filesystem and restore it. It is often integrated with the package manager and a snapshot is involved before you make change.

NixOS works differently. You have a configuration file, and each time you make change to it NixOS rebuilds itself to its specification from scratch (you might assume it would be a lengthy process, but because of caching only things that are rebuilt are things that you are changing).

This means that things like for example squeezing from KDE to Gnome or X11 to Wayland aren't scary to try and you can easily revert things back, your home directory won't be touched.

Also those things aren't exclusive you can use BTRFS and ZFS on NixOS to and enjoy their benefits.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

You can also exclude any directory you like from snapshots, including home, that's not a problem.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you can if you plan well enough (typically. What I'm trying to illustrate is that this works by taking a snapshot of the disk in time. It's like keeping a working copy of your system on your disk to be able to revert to.

While with NixOS you work with a "recipe" how your system is supposed to be configured. It is much lighter. It is declarative, you change the recipe and get what you described, you change configuration and all packages which you did not mention and are not used by anything are gone. If you update your system you can use the same configuration on it

The thing is that using can still get BTRFS or ZFS and use it to have snapshots too (for example your home directory)

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah man, 3 months ago i had fedora 38 btrfs, timeshift refused to work because subvolumes wasn't done, but i installed everything in auto gui mode, i did them by the manual after installation, timeshift started working just fine, a week further update to fedora 39 came, i updated, everything broke because of subvolumes, i loaded fedora recovery mode from grub, tried to roll back with timeshift btrfs, it rolled back to 38 but everything was still broke, and more over, whole ssd with this installation became locked, had to recover data from completely locked up ssd, in the middle of the process it locked even further, so i couldn't even copy some files when disk was connected as external

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Have no idea what RH did that would do that during an update.

I manually set up BTRFS every time, haven't had any problems. But, I use Void, not Fedora.

[-] neonred@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

nix-env / nix-channels / nix profile / homemanager ?

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

NixOS ended up disappointing me a fair bit. I just tried it recently and the KDE support seems very rough so far, or at least I couldn't find good answers to how to configure it and theme it.

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

kde theming is pretty much independent of your distro tho?

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

One of the main draw of NixOs is the reproducibility of builds, meaning that redoing the build will provide the exact same output each time, so Nix encourages you to make configuration changes through the package manager. I've mostly overcome my theming woes with home-manager now, but this comment was speaking to a little wrinkle I had when I was trying to learn and take advantage of the OS's features as best I could.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Home manager is the way to do it though.

The main configuration handles configuration of the system, home manager project was created to bring similar functionality for the user home directory. That's where the name comes from.

Home manager also works great when using Nix on other systems to manage for files, for example on OS X.

[-] Black616Angel@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Please don't post reddit links.

I can never look at them, since they apparently block mullvad.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

NixOS would be top and bottom, and the Orca, alltogether?

[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 10 months ago

Hannah Montana users be up in the Everest.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Why mess with perfection?

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Ewno.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Debian Bookworms REPRESENT!

Also ... you know ... try to see if you can push another penguin in

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

You misspelled Sid

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I'm glad they got the order right. I feel like gentoo should be piloting a nuclear submarine targeting the Orca though.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

What happened?

[-] Unyieldingly@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It Broke far to many times, I used Arch Linux for about 5 years or longer, systemd fixed a lot of stuff, and some of the other changes, but i needed a more production stable system.

I use ZFS Bootmenu with Debian Stable+flatpak and some backports these days and so for i only broke my system once.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, I thought there was some large change on the distro.

I can relate. I've kept to the top of the hill for decades already.

[-] nUbee@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Maybe things have changed since I've last tried it (10 years or so), but I thought Fedora Rawhide was at the most bleeding edge of experimental packages.

[-] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

I agree, KDE is totally broken in old TVs. So I have to live without power management no blanking and no suspension lol...

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago

sorry, wait, back up, did you manage to install a desktop Linux environment on a TV

[-] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

No lol I just connected an old TV CHHWJT on my PC. Not old at all 7950x 7900xt and powerdevil is broken

[-] callyral@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

what about debian sid

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 7 points 10 months ago

Sid users are just future arch users but without time for a clean reinstall.

[-] neonred@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is "I use Debian sid btw" a meme now? Please? 🥺

Because "sid + nix" is currently a really nice experience for me.

[-] poinck@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

What is the second icon?

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I think it’s flatpak?

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

yep

[-] poinck@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Uuh, so close to the water <_<

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Flatpak? What?

[-] Unyieldingly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Flatpak will have the newest Mesa and Nvidia Drivers, etc, Flatpak is almost like having a rolling release.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

As an Arch user you just push other Arch users in. It's kinda how as a Windows user you set that checkbox that says smth like "update me ASAP" on other people's windows install, so they get used as bugtesting sheep instead of you.

Also I use Garuda and they setup snapshots for me as I don't know how any of that works.

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