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Seriously. I don't want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that's what it's called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.

What's the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?

(Are there any good reasons for it, too? Security, maybe?)

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[-] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

If a company require me to download or install something I ammost likly looking up their direct competitors

[-] elvith@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

...who usually require you to download their app, too - sadly

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

I always assumed the reason was to get more tendrils into your phone for that sweet sweet data $$$ and allowing themselves more control over shoving notifications in your face.

Do I sound bitter?

[-] arquebus_x@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure there are some "data harvesting" reasons, but honestly, the simplest is likely the truest:

Most people aren't computer-savvy, and having an app is much easier for most users than going to a website (either directly or through a bookmark that they probably won't ever be able to find again).

One must remember, always and forever: most people aren't us/you. Just because something is easy for you to do doesn't mean it's easy for everyone else.

Is it dumb for me that T-Mobile has an app that just goes to a webview that I could get through my phone browser? Yes. Is it dumb for my parents? Absolutely ten thousand percent no.

The value (in terms of money made/saved/protected) that a company gets from having an app instead of a website only is probably ranked in this order:

1 - ease of use for the majority of customers, reducing tech and customer support calls, angry customers, lost goodwill, bad reputation
2-99 - same as #1
100 - data harvesting

[-] Dewded@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I believe Spotify did this back in the day in order to hide as much of their AB testing from Apple who is essentially a competitor due to iTunes.

Having much of the UI delivered via web also makes it easier to deploy updates as no software update is necessary.

[-] pastaPersona@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For certain things it makes sense to have an app imo, for instance music streaming services the desktop experience just has more features, plays better with my preamp/headphones and so on.

For something like Netflix it’s extremely irritating that they either intentionally gimp the experience of using the service on many browsers (IIRC Netflix is capped at 720p in Firefox still) or try to force users into using the app (see YouTube attempting to automatically redirect you to the app anytime you try to watch a video in the browser).

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They can make money off the downloads I would think.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unless they're charging for the app (and if it's just a webview probably not), it actually costs them money to be on the App Store or the Play Store.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I cannot speak for them, but I can relate to the idea. There's one called Nobly that was based on a great idea but eliminated itself due to this.

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've found most of them work much nicer and load faster.

[-] Jezebelley3D@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

This is why I love kbin. No nonsense apps just a PWA that works splendidly. Now I don't need a mastodon or lemmy app! It's all here!

FWIW, I've been using lemmy in a browser exclusively, not even a PWA and it works fine.
I'm not aware of a PWA implementation that supports multiple tabs either.

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