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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by neshura@bookwormstory.social to c/anime@lemmy.ml

Check the modlog for proof, a discussion post about moving this instance to an instance that shan't be named now got removed for "linking to instance featuring pedo content".

Ironically that exact possibility was reason for the discussion in the first place so seeing it happen this quickly is a bit funny.

Not sure how best to go about linking to said instance since it seems to get your content removed. DM's would be the only solution I guess but not sure if those are checked as well.

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[-] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago

For context, I encourage people to check this discussion in the "join Lemmy" site github. Have in mind that both of the Lemmy developers in that discussion are also admins of the lemmy.ml instance, and they clearly disagree if the instance in question should be considered as "hosting CSAM" or not.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yup, that was a bit of a shit show all around, made the rounds in the privacy communities as well and they were not pleased with the blatant censorship over there either. I guess stuff like this is why a lot of those people hang around dbzer0 now. To each interest an instance with fitting policies I guess.

The really sad part though is how it locks in users on lemmy.ml, you can't even really link to a safe haven because doing so is already grounds to get the post/comment removed

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Pretty happy with my instance. :)
Tbf though I don't check the mod log.
Do you get a message if something happened with your post?

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[-] Itte@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

I saw that post yesterday. It's true but it says "mods" for me:

Kinda crazy when its linked at the sidebar.

[-] ram@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

These actions are being taken by .ml site admin Arthur Besse / cypherpunks. There's nothing I can do as a mere community mod ^^

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can see that you downvoted besse's comment asking for volunteers with three different accounts of yours. This downvote manipulation viewer is already proving useful.

[-] rammy@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was incidental tbh. I keep seeing it on different accounts and just click the appropriate button. If I'd actually wanted to manipulate it, I wouldn't have used 3 accounts named "ram" given kbin can see it, right? lmao

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[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 9 points 10 months ago

here a link to the photon UI of my instance: https://photon.bookwormstory.social/modlog?community=18. It shows the names of moderators even to non moderators and admins. Feel free to double check yourself. I have no idea why it displays as a mod action for some but unless proven otherwise I'll just adsume it's buggy and not malicious

[-] Itte@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah that makes sense

[-] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

For me it says "admins". I don't know if it's because I'm a mod of a few other lemmy.ml comms, or if it's because of the different backend versions (SJW uses 0.18.5, lemmy.ml uses 0.19.1).

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 12 points 10 months ago

To add a bit more opinion: If you have an account on lemmy.ml itself and read/comment in either the Anime or Manga community I urgently recommend you migrate to a different instance. As far as I can tell the instance we shan't name here anymore for fear of admin abuse is still visible on join-lemmy.org after widespread complaints that removing an instance from there based on admin opinion alone is not exactly nice.

Best way to tell you how to find it is go to join-lemmy.org and look for an obviously anime themed instance in the "Art" category. Not sure if just saying that is grounds for removal though, depends on how trigger happy the admins here are.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

ml admins hate anime and don't want it on their instance. Simple as that.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 13 points 10 months ago

I mean yeah, that's why the talk about moving the stragglers was even brought up. Keeping this anime community is neither in the best interest of the .ml admins nor in the best interest of the community.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Its really unfortunate that the ml admins are the way they are. Too bad there cant be a mass mod message sent as a DM to subscribers telling them where to move to. That make sit tedious and can make those left behind feel lost. But I guess if enough move over and the anime community that is more social than this one gets bigger maybe itll be easier to find? Who knows.

I was only here because it was the first search result a while back.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Can't you pin a message in a board so if members would be informed if they choose to investigate why theres no content?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 points 10 months ago

The problem is that one of the lemmy.ml admins has misconceptions about the instance that the admins of this community want to redirect traffic to, and said lemmy.ml admin has been deleting posts that so much as mention that server. That increases the difficulty of leaving a pinned pointer message.

[-] shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 10 months ago

I miss the animation age ghetto, tbh, this new Japanese hate is way more annoying.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I just moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.ml because I was tired of the .ml admins constantly removing any minor criticism of BRICS-allied countries for "xenophobia". I think it would be a good idea to abandon the instance altogether, especially for topics such as world news.

Pretty weird move to develop a social media platform with a transparent modlog and still partake in censorship on your own instance.

[-] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I've not heard many positive things about the ml instance. I ended up on the dot world because I didn't know that much about the fediverse. Hell, I still don't know that much.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe link to a community which can then link to the actual target? Both beehaw and lemmy.world have general anime communities. Not a perfect solution, granted, but it might be a usable workaround.

[-] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sorry for the double reply. Here's a practical idea: what if the mods of this comm contacted lemmy.ml's admins? Ideally doing two things:

  1. Clarifying that the instance in question does not have child sexual abuse material, and requesting users to be allowed to link it.
  2. Expressing desire to migrate !anime@lemmy.ml to the instance in question, and highlighting that this is convenient for both sides of the matter.

Among the admins I think that Nutomic would be the best to contact, given the github thread.

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