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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net to c/self_improvement@hexbear.net

Now that I’ve caught you with the clickbait title,

Basically every post has included some form of toxic self-hate, minus one or two mentioning exercise. While I do like being able to confront these in the first place, the purported goals and name of this community gives people who are giving the exact wrong advice far too much credibility, and the last thing these people need is a comment with the most upbears regurgitating individualistic self-help concepts at them.

If we’re going to keep this sort of community around, I suggest doing some serious research and basing it off of DBT, and integrating serious critiques of CBT style mental healthcare and improvement.

I am just some random nerd who is terrible at self-improvement at general, so I understand taking this with some serious doubt. But I just had to get this off my chest.

Thank you, WithoutFurtherBelay

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[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I think the topic of advice/self-help/therapy/whatever is too often seen as an absolute/a pure science/idk. Like the “good” advice that’s promoted as “healthy” isn’t always that. I’m kinda sleep deprived sorry.

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

This is a good idea. This should be a com about building value and worth through community and organizing.

[-] arabiclearner@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

building value and worth through community and organizing

Yeah but then again there's that elusive word "organizing." It's basically like tankie at this point, cuz i have no idea what it means. To some people it means joining an org. To others it means talking to your neighbors and maybe forming a tenant union. To others it means volunteering at a local food shelter.

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Doesn't it mean all of those things?

[-] arabiclearner@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

I'll put it this way, with your average self-help guide, many people have lost weight, gained muscle, improved their looks, etc. I have yet to see some kind of organizing guide other than "join an org."

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

That's the thing about organizing, is that you need to do it along with other people. Just get outside, talk to your neighbors, find a community group to join, take a local organizing course (actually a lot of them). Just go out and do something nice for other people. Learn organizing from someone else who's good at it.

If you need to read about it, there are actually lots of guides on organizing. For example:

https://www.brightest.io/community-organizing

https://neighborhoodanarchists.org/organizing-guide

A DSA Resource for Effective Community Organizing http://www.campusactivism.org/server-new/uploads/dsa_organizing_manual.pdf

For example

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Very disappointed by the advice I received (90% was telling me to dress better, other 10% was telling me to go out to cliched places) the other day when I both did a bit and also revealed a little kernal about myself and wishing to be romanced/pursued someday. It was more about how docile and boring and unromantic and patriarchal women are here, not how I'm UGLY YOU FUCKS. I DRESS WELL WITH FLOWING, CURLING LOCKS.

Anyway, not mad about it, just disappointed.

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Didnt see the post, but jfc I feel you.

[-] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Can't expect people to be good at everything, this is why appointing experts to stuff is good

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[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If we’re going to keep this sort of community around, I suggest doing some serious research and basing it off of DBT, and integrating serious critiques of CBT style mental healthcare and improvement.

Yea let's not have a bunch of internet strangers posting about stuff they're not qualified to talk about. People can always easily read about this online elsewhere from actual scientists

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

let's not have a bunch of internet strangers posting about stuff they're not qualified to talk about

If the internet took this to heart, it would instantly collapse to 1% of its current usage

edit: not trying to be snarky or anything, I don't instantly disagree, I just think that it's okay to develop this sort of nuanced understanding of how to best approach self-development and community-development as, well, a community, using the theory and advice of people more learned than us, rather than dismissing the concept of the comm out of hand

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

real self-improvers are anti-psych

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A community which focusses on improving yourself. This can be in many different ways - from improving physical health or appearance, to improving mental health, creating better habits, overcoming addictions, etc.

While material circumstances beyond our control do govern much of our daily lives, people do have agency and choices to make, whether that is as "simple" as disciplining yourself to not doomscroll, to as complex as recreating yourself to have many different hobbies and habits.

This is not a place where all we do is talk about improving "productivity" (in a workplace context) and similar terms and harmful lifestyles like "grindset". Self-improvement here is intended to make you a generally better and happier person, as well as a better communist, and any other roles you may have in your life.

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