Yeah now it repeats the same vocab over and over a bit too long and it's hard to get much use out of it

It has become very apparent, even in popular languages. Going to give y'all three examples here:

• Spanish for English speakers assumes you're learning North American Spanish, and marks a ton of things as mistakes as a result. On top of that, some of the things it teaches you are just not very correct in general. Yes, people will obviously understand you, but it's the same as Google Translate saying something without understanding the nuances of what is going on
• Russian for English speakers. This one was hilarious. I speak it at native level, and decided to do the placement test as a gag. I did not pass it. Half of the exercises were straight up garbage.
• Japanese for English speakers teaches you practically nothing. It's repetition and memorization of the same phrases, without any actual learning involved.

You are way better off using apps like Busuu. You get speaking practice, feedback from the system and other people, and it goes into an okay amount of detail for grammar and vocabulary, for the upcoming exercises. It's not perfect, but it's better. For Japanese specifically, just avoid these to begin with. It's not a good time. Download yourself Renshuu for writing practice, and a copy of Genki for everything else

Is there any better app you can recommend? I started with babbel in the beginning but after finishing the basic courses it got so dry and boring to use, that i swapped to Duo. Also because a few friends use it.

Duolingo is a steaming pile compared to what it used to be. The nags to pay went up and the quality went down. Their new learning path completely ruined the process for me.

They’ve gone to complete shit since they’ve become a publicly traded company. Trash updates, removing the forum and comments/discussions on questions.

Money is priority over education when it’s tradable on the stock market.

Fuck them, I hope someone creates an AI based language learning app and Duolingo goes out of business. lol at their $215 stock price. It’ll be 1/20 of that in 3 years.

I did the Latin course last year and was unpleasantly surprised by how low quality znd even low quantity it was. Guess I'll try Babbel next.

To be fair, it has been a long time of the decline and increased monetization.

I remember using it at a time where gems had only cosmetic use or you could freeze your streak.

I did not use it for a couple years and came back to gems being used for a whole lot more, a few free exercises and then it cost gems. Getting the final, I think gold, level of each exercise cost like 100 gems a try, no mistakes allowed.

The only reason I still kept using it was that in the early years I amassed 10000+ gems, so I was slowly using those up. Once that was over I stopped, unusable without paying and even then it does not provide more than vocabulary practise.

Q: Why do people add "en" in front? Isn't "shittification" just fine?

A lot of people don't have much food on their table
But they got a lot of forks n' knives
And they gotta cut somethin'

- Dylan

Honestly I prefer Babbel over Duolingo. It requires a sub though

http://librelingo.app/

Lingodeer is pretty great. It has a similar free/premium model to Duo, but unlike Duo there is an option to buy premium perpetually rather than as a subscription (and it is on sale currently)

Assimil courses, fsi courses, language transfer, Clozemaster (app), Pimsleur.

Setzen, 6.