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[-] James_Ryan@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago
[-] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Vapes = bad for lungs, cigs = plant therefore it's healthy.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

If you smoke one or two cigarettes a day, it's not too terrible.

The probem came from people smoking a pack a day or more, and yes, it's the kind of habit that tends to grow.

When big tobacco made the stuff plentiful enough that people could support pack-a-day (or even case-a-day) habits, the money was just too good not to defend by surpressing science.

As the fossil fuel revelations have shown, billionaires get desperat for money, and can't imagine deciding they have enough or sharing substantial portions of their wealth to change the world for the better.

[-] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/14/5/315

In both sexes, smoking 1–4 cigarettes per day was associated with a significantly higher risk of dying from ischaemic heart disease and from all causes, and from lung cancer in women. .

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/smoking-and-cancer/how-does-smoking-cause-cancer#:~:text=and%20other%20diseases.-,Reducing%20the%20number%20of%20cigarettes%20you%20smoke%20a%20day%20is,never%20too%20late%20to%20stop.

Reducing the number of cigarettes you smoke a day is a good first step. But, there is no safe level of smoking. The best thing you can do for your health is to stop smoking completely

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Well there's really no safe level of anything. Literally everything you do increases your odds of dying. It's all about proportion. Breathing doesn't increase your odds of dying very much.

The conversation around nicotine is severely lacking in comparisons of scale. It's all like "IF YOU SMOKE LITERALLY ONE CIGARETTE YOU WILL DIE OF HORRIBLE CANCER" which is a ridiculous thing to be putting out there. I get the intent, it's because cigarettes are addictive and smoking one usually leads to smoking more, but it really makes it difficult to get a sense of how harmful cigarettes actually are at lower dosages.

That first study you linked was a good one in this regard, but the summary still couldn't help but tend towards "you smoke at all, you will die". A graph would be helpful.

Actually, I'll just make one.

[-] break1146@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I mean... Breathing doesn't increase your chance of dying, but not doing it will guarantee it. If you smoke, there is a good chance you will die from a horrible disease. That's the reality of it. With one cigarettes a day, smoking more will increase that chance.

[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I want people to keep smoking because too many old people put a significant strain on the economy.

/s in case anyone needs it

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Might actually be the case, some studies have suggested that smokers are much less expensive to society than nonsmokers because they die like 20 years younger

[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Die 20 years younger? Fuck, I should try smoking.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Can we ban the "hahaha I want to die" teenager edginess? It wasn't funny in the middle ages, it's not funny now.

[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ban me yourself, coward.

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