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Why isn't there a Harry Potter-themed Lemmy instance yet? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by blue_berry@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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It's one of the first things I would expect from a site like this. I know that J.K. Rowlings views are very controversial to put it mildly, but:

The fandom/books are not the author
Harry Potter will become a part of the Fediverse at some point anyways - better to support it early on and shape its developing rather than having a company build a H.P. social network on top of the fediverse, which will be to our disadvantage
In terms of potential users, this could be huge for the threadiverse
We are in the Fediverse: defederation is always a possibility

Or was it just never tried before / no one wanted to yet?

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[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

fuck J.K. Rowling and anything to do with her.
you want a Harry Potter themed instance? fucking make one.

[-] grandel@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I've obviously missed something here, but why the hatred towards Rowling?

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People who are part of the Fediverse are generally progressive, which is why they are here to begin with instead of facebook/Xitter/reddit.
People who are progressive generally don't like people who don't like trans people.

This is just anecdotally, but it there seems to be much higher than average rate of trans persons on the fediverse.

[-] lazzerot@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think it's just that trans people will find it easier to transition from one dying platform to a beautiful new one. (I'm so sorry, but you basically set up the punchline for me, I'll show myself out now.)

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I approve of this humorous framing.

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

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[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 9 months ago

There is !harrypotter@literature.cafe if you want to join. There is some activity at the moment, but not enough to go for a dedicated instance.

Also, as the other comments have shown, the bigotry of the author does not help.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago

Your "separate the author from the works" is your opinion
Even if we do separate them, the works themselves are brimful of problematic tropes and stereotypes
I don't want Harry Potter fans coming here, good god. I'd rather sound with a habanero-infused DS stylus than hang out with Harry Potter fans.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago

I don’t want Harry Potter fans coming here, good god. I’d rather sound with a habanero-infused DS stylus than hang out with Harry Potter fans.

Hey, I'm a fan of the universe, I hope I'm still welcome here

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I don't want Harry Potter fans coming here, good god.

To quote you: That's your opinion

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 months ago

Obviously. Unlike OP, I didn't present it as an absolute fact.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Well, number 3 is an image I won’t be able to unthink….

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Most of the people on the fediverse are adults who are most likely going to join either a general instance or a themed instance for interests for adults and not for a children’s book series, especially not one with a TERFy author

People like SpongeBob, I don’t think there is interest for a SpongeBob instance. Nevertheless if you think there is interest in it, feel free to host your own.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 9 months ago

The issue at hand is you fail to separate the fandom from the economic benefit driven to the author.

It's like buying Nestle because you enjoy the chocolate, despite the fact that there are respectable companies that aren't absolute monsters that also make chocolate you could be enjoying.

JKR is as much HP as Mark Schneide is Nestle. End of story. If you don't support her views, find one of the millions of other wonderful works of literature to be a fan of.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 9 months ago

be the change you want to see

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's very obvious that the kind of people that hang around in fediverse absolutely despise Rowling. I never see any positive discourse about Harry Potter here. Even discussions about the game are generally negative.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

There was one, but as you can see, there isn't much of an interest in the works of bigots

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Really? A whole instance?

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

I mean, it was just a lemmy instance someone put up. It's not that huge a thing, and it wasn't very popular...

[-] Knitwear@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

"separate creator from the art" only works when the creator has passed and no longer benefits from celebrating the art. Arguably not even then.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Yo-ho yo-ho, they don't benefit from me.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago

Well, even if you ignore the author, the books are actually trash once you're older than ~16 years (give or take a year or two). There are soooo many inconsistencies, that I could write like one full A4 page just from the top of my head (and I read it in 2007, so you bet I've forgotten most of it). I could write many more pages with some light Googling.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 7 points 9 months ago

Why does it have to be a whole instance? Why not just create a community for it and start posting content you find interesting?

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 9 months ago

There are legitimate reasons for creating an entire instance for a specific fandom. Independence from other instances and their federation decisions is a big one.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure, but it seems like that the "need" for independence would come only after the community is already established and some type of conflict came up that made it impossible for them to stay in any of the other already-existing instances.

To put in concrete terms: I wouldn't have any problem to create a HP community on a topic-specific instance like https://metacritics.zone. @blue_berry@lemmy.world, would you be interested in that? I can make you mod if you want.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

To put in concrete terms: I wouldn’t have any problem to create a HP community on a topic-specific instance like https://metacritics.zone. @blue_berry@lemmy.world, would you be interested in that? I can make you mod if you want.

Keep it easy, I think a community such as !harrypotter@literature.cafe is more than sufficient for now

[-] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 9 months ago

Oh, if the community exists already even better.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Waiting for a conflict to arise just leaves you with a fractured community in the aftermath.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 9 months ago

In the aftermath of what? The community hasn't even formed and you are anxious about an imaginary problem?

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 9 months ago

The aftermath of the conflict you referred to in your previous comment.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 9 months ago

Again, this would be in the chance some "conflict" happened.

Do you think it's reasonable that people shouldn't even try to go for the lower-hanging fruit because they see a potential conflict that will lead to some more work?