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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Whenever i need to use windows, i leave it on a separate drive, and then just point a rEFInd entry to it. It really frustrates me, that Windows just expects full advocacy over your hardware, and performs changes like this without any warning

[-] ares35@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

i've had both windows and linux mess-up dual boot setups.. so i started keeping them separate. either different systems, or run in a vm.

[-] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 10 months ago

My issue is that when linux fucks up my bootloader it's usually by mistake / bug. If windows does it it's pretty much deliberate

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 6 points 10 months ago

VMWare workstation is well worth the £££. I work in a Windows VM that is fully compliant with all the business requirements and when I run it full screen I don't feel like it's a VM.

[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

I dualboot with separate efi partitions. Does it happen that windows fucks up anothr efi partition?

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 10 months ago

Arch moment

(no I will never forget that one time they borked the grub package and there was no notification of it in the newsfeed)

[-] shadowintheday2@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I switched to systemd boot when that happened, and it's been so smooth ever since

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

I just switched to Fedora and been happy with it for ~2 yrs

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Untill there's a bug in systemd-boot on arch...

[-] shadowintheday2@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

It's not exempt from happening; however, it rarely ever updates and has less complexity/functionality than grub, which makes it less prone to error happening (be it from the developers, or from the user like me trying to theme it :))

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

Seems familiar. Did you by any chance also not update the copy of grub in your EFI system partition since you installed it? Then you need to do that and afterwards everything works fine again.

While you are at it add a netboot.xyz EFI entry to fix that kind of stuff without a USB stick or your own network boot server.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 20 points 10 months ago
[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago
grub> set root=(...)
grub> linux /vmlinuz root=...
grub> initrd /initrd.img
grub> boot
[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Now draw the rest of the owl.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 18 points 10 months ago
[-] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 months ago

Windows has a habit of deleting grub when it updates. Idk if it is just bad Microsoft programming or intentional.

[-] stanka@lemmy.ml 55 points 10 months ago
[-] ares35@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

windows ain't done until nothing else runs.

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 25 points 10 months ago

You mean I can’t have a separate partition without microsoft thinking they own everything?

[-] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 months ago

Yeah pretty much. When I dual booted I just had 2 drives and used the bios boot select

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

I used to do that but windows still managed to break grub somehow

[-] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago
[-] rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

What irritates me the most is they don't even bother to ask what to do with the bootloader when installing Windows, or at least the option is hidden behind some guru magic not supported by the installer GUI. Leave an old windows boot drive plugged in while doing a fresh install on another drive, and the installer happily uses the bootloader on the old drive without ever even mentioning it. Since it is so easy to make this mistake you'd think Microsoft offered a tool to move the bootloader to a different drive, but nope.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

This post made by the windows gang

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 10 months ago

Btw, rEFInd detects bootloaders by itself.

[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 5 points 10 months ago

Time to break out the system rescue USB

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago

What I'm missing? Just do update-grub.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Am i the only one using elilo?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

I thought it had been abandoned since 2003, but not at all!
It's been abandoned since 2013.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Ah so its only been 10 years. Perfect. Probably why nothings broken?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of things may have changed in ten years though. It's good that nothing broke, but it's not very reassuring.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

No its not ideal.

[-] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 6 points 10 months ago
[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Am i missing anything?

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Honestly, when I learned that rEFInd supports loading dxe modules natively I swapped and never looked back (NVMe boot drives on ancient computers, my beloved)

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