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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

I should be able to run any software I see fit on a piece of hardware I own without a corporation acting as a gatekeeper. I hope the EU finds this unacceptable because it’s frankly bullshit.

[-] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Android has entered the chat.

But yeah, the closed iOS experience is why i stay away from Apple.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

To be most specific, LineageOS (open source Android) on a Google Pixel phone. Google's Pixel hardware is open.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

You can side load apps on pretty much every version of Android.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

even the modem? I was under the impression that cellular modems where the thing keeping a truly free phone being made.

[-] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

How would that even work? Apps distributed outside the App Store would not (necessarily) be submitted to Apple to review, and the developer of sideloaded apps may not be identifiable to charge fees too.

I suppose they could mandate some sort of signing system for sideloaded executables but I have a feeling the EU would consider that a further abuse.

It will all come out in the wash, but if the rumours are true Apple seems to be going about this in the worst way possible.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

On macOS, an app has to be signed by the developer and then “notarized” by Apple, and the notarization involves some sort of automatic malware scanning. It isn’t a human review. You can circumvent these requirements as a user, but not as a developer. I presume this is as far as Apple might be able to go on iOS in the EU.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

This is equivalent to getting a speeding ticket while your car is on a flatbed

[-] Nogami@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Anyone who didn’t see this coming? It was pretty obvious they’ll never ever allow unlimited side loading.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Well the new system will be way worse than current sideloading (which just requires a reinstall once a year)

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

Once a year if you have a paid developer account, which is $100/year. It’s otherwise every 7 days and capped at 3 simultaneous apps*. And in either case you need a Mac or Windows machine available as well. I suspect it’ll be an improvement for anyone without a paid developer account.

* - At least, according to https://sideloadly.io/ - I haven’t touched sideloading for a few years (with AltStore + AltServer).

[-] amzd@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

You’re assuming you won’t need a dev account for this new system? Or is that confirmed somewhere

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things.

But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight?

Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away

[-] amzd@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload

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