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submitted 10 months ago by noodlejetski@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org

Last week, I turned on my PC, installed a Windows update, and rebooted to find Microsoft Edge automatically open with the Chrome tabs I was working on before the update. I don’t use Microsoft Edge regularly, and I have Google Chrome set as my default browser. Bleary-eyed at 9AM, it took me a moment to realize that Microsoft Edge had simply taken over where I’d left off in Chrome. I couldn’t believe my eyes.

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[-] Ascyron@lemmy.one 69 points 10 months ago

This behaviour is why I roll my eyes when the edge fanbois are all like "iTs AlL cHrOmE aNyWaY".

Fuck any company that uses their power to try trick people into using their software, yes including google.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 62 points 10 months ago

“iTs AlL cHrOmE aNyWaY”

This is why I use Firefox.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

Firefox still needs to be compatible with the "living standard" as implemented in Chromium, it's how the modern web works 🤷

[-] Ellvix@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago

What do you mean by 'living standard' ?

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 months ago

Google's monopolistic and often asinine implementation of web standards that haven't been fully set in stone by the proper internet oversight groups yet, I'd guess?

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[-] 4am@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Wait, Edge fanbois are real??

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[-] megopie@beehaw.org 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’m slowly just migrating away from windows as much as I can because Microsoft is being so pushy with this nonsense. Like, they keep trying to get me to log in to a Microsoft account that doesn’t exist, they keep changing settings and asking for more permissions, they keep reinstalling stuff I’ve ripped out purposefully, and from the way they’re talking it seems like it’s just going to get worse. Stuff like putting cloud run python functions in to Excel just sounds like they’re testing tech to push more and more functions off the device and in to their centralized processing centers.

I’d consider apple but I don’t have “spend 3x as much money on the same hardware” money TBH, and really I don’t have any guarantees they won’t do the same thing Microsoft is doing.

I’ve got an older laptop that I’m slowly rebuilding my work flow in mint Linux and once I’ve got that working I’ll set it up on my main computer and be done with windows for the foreseeable future.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 47 points 10 months ago

And again, install Linux and be done with this shit. Fuck Windows, fuck everything about Microsoft, don't use their crap

[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 15 points 10 months ago

Having switched Linux for over two decades now, I find the current state of Windows to be extremely weird. Why do people tolerate such abuse? Is it that the gradual degradation conditioned people to accept it? Sort of like the proverbial frog in the boiling water?

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 44 points 10 months ago

No one who enjoys the Internet should be using Chrome for anything.

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 42 points 10 months ago

installed a Windows update, (...) and I have Google Chrome set as my default browser

It's subtle but if you look closely and read between the lines you can see what the real issue is.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago

He doesn't use Arch btw

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 27 points 10 months ago

Edge also copies all the extensions you have in Chrome.

I use Edge as "that browser with full tracking and no privacy that government sites require", so it still was a dick move... had to disable them all 😒

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

LOL This is what happens when you run closed source garbage. Nothing is in your control.

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[-] wick@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

That's hilarious. Why would you use chrome instead of edge though? At least with edge you cut out google, with chrome you give data to both.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 28 points 10 months ago

I'm having trouble parsing this so i might be commenting on something that isn't there.

Current edge is a chrome re-skin with some addons, I'd put good money on it not being google free.

If you care about data going to nefarious places you probably shouldn't be using either.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

Firefox is your friend.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 24 points 10 months ago

Everyone in this thread is complaining about Chrome. They should be complaining about MS.

[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 36 points 10 months ago

Can't we do both?

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[-] brie@beehaw.org 20 points 10 months ago

It's so easy to switch to Edge, you don't even have to try! Literally!

Microsoft Edge is actually good, so I sure hope the team building it isn’t about to resort to more tricks to get Chrome users to use it.

Given Microsoft's track record....

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To be fair, chromium aside, edge did start as a nice browser, but as with all MS products, they end up getting riddled with more and more bullshit over time.

Just use Firefox.

[-] Zworf@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah and that didn't take very long. I mean how long was it since they started pushing the "new" edge until the crapware started showing up? Only a year or 2 IIRC.

I mean normally the rule of enshittification is that you wait inserting all the crap after people have started adopting your product. They didn't wait long enough. I always knew they would do it but at least I didn't have to wait long to be proven right.

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[-] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago

The only browser recommended by Microsoft.

Made by Microsoft

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[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 18 points 10 months ago

Look at me! I am the browser now

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 14 points 10 months ago

Actually, I had this exact issue a year ago, had a rage fit, and bought a Mac. I hate Apple, but this was going way too far

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[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 14 points 10 months ago

I thought I had heard the worst of it. But it's their platform. They keep inventing new ways to screw their customers.

[-] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

Funny how the EU council considers iOS to be a big problem but not Microsoft’s behavior around Edge. Both need to be corrected, but only one has seen any action - and it ain’t Microsoft.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Accordingly to The Verge, "EU regulators have “tentatively concluded” that Bing and Edge aren’t dominant enough for the DMA regulations".

I agree that both need to be corrected though. The issue is Microsoft's behaviour being unacceptable. It also creates a nasty situation, where other corporations might argue "you allowed Microsoft to do it, so allow us too, otherwise you're being unfair."

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

That's horrible. Also normal.

And sad because none of those two things should even exist, much less dominate the market.

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[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago
[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's Chromium!

I honestly do suspect the fact that they're both Chromium based is part of why this is possible.

[-] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can't imagine it be too difficult to extract the open URLs, end chrome and launch Edge with the appropriate arguments.

But if it carried over cookies too, that's when I would see the chromium common-ground help out.

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