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[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 38 points 9 months ago

No British show is going to discuss a marijuana habit, that's very much an American word. It's called cannabis

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, this is the third time I'm seeing this reply and facepalming. I'm 99.99 percent sure that the narration I'm paraphrasing said "cannabis," and I just automatically translated it, when I made the meme.

Weirdly, I think I might be conflating a British-produced true crime show (which had that very innocent attitude toward weed because of extreme cannabis prohibition in the British Isles) and an American true crime show which had a similarly adorable attitude toward weed, just because it was targeted at an audience of VERY WHITE older people.

Which is outrageously incorrect, more than anything else. I mean, older people smoked a shitload of weed. If we're talking about Boomers, they are absolutely the generation of Americans who have smoked the most weed, over their lifetimes. But now they pretend like they've never even seen it before, and it's just another reason why we need to "close the border."

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

On that note, Americans use the word Marijuana because that was the Mexican Spanish word for cannabis and it was supposed to be stigmatizing to make it easier to ban in the US (those degenerate Mexicans were the ones corrupting our youth with this devil drug).

Such a long history of being so easily played by propaganda

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

In my experience Europeans fall into two drug taking categories, either they’ve never taken any or have done more drugs than any American that wasn’t a professional musician in 60s-70s or a professional wrestler in any era could survive

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's been my experience, too, actually. There are also some poor souls who just chug along, sadly smoking the cardboard-tier weed that they get, over there.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Last time i was in the UK I met a girl that was so excited to smoke me out, she rolled and handed me a spliff and was shocked I wasn’t out of control stoned. I didn’t have the heart to tell her she was smoking straight dirt

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

Be honest, though: the spliff itself was rolled like a work of art, right? They dress that weak-ass weed up with some advanced rolling tezniques, across the pond.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh she rolled that shit like a Cuban cigar, still weak ass weed but it was a great smoke

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

Yup. I knew an Irish dude and his girlfriend who would do exactly the type of shit you're talking about. He looked like an 18th Century romantic-era poet, too, which made it even more surreal to watch this motherfucker taking 22 minutes, painstakingly rolling up the tightest, most perfectly crafted spliff in the history of smoke.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If any of the friends I made over there ever come visit this side of the pond I’m gonna fuck their whole world up

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah. I mean, can you even imagine what some of these blast-your-face-inside-out edibles will do to them?

Then they'll go back over there, calling the weed cookies they had "weed biscuits." Which is just cute, in and of itself.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It isn’t often we get a cultural win over them so I always revel in it, being from the south I deeply want to give my welsh drinking buddy some moonshine

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago

As a fellow southerner, I also have to remind you of your duty to show these people what biscuits are.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I make my moms every potluck my company puts on

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

You mean scones?

[-] NotAViciousCyborg@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Cookies are cookies, my transatlantic friend. Biscuits are a separate category

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

Wait, really? Okay, what's the actual definition of biscuit, then?

From the context that I've experienced, I suspect it's basically what we would call a "crispy cookie," but please do go on.

[-] NotAViciousCyborg@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Fucked if I know the exact definition tbh. Biscuits are more crumbly, cookies are more moist and generally have other things added to them, like chocolate chips or m&ms. I just know a biscuit when I see it. Your biscuits look more like savoury scones but I can't say I've had the opportunity to try

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we just lump your biscuits in with the umbrella definition of "cookie" and some of them are just harder than others. As for our biscuits, I have the same problem that I've never had a scone, so I also remain pretty sure that scones are what I'd call sweet/non-savory biscuits...but I'm also not sure.

The ingredients for American biscuits: flour, butter, baking powder, and milk.

EDIT: trying to make them in places outside the American South can be more complicated than the recipe indicates, though. I read an article a couple of years ago, where someone dug into the problem of why biscuits aren't very good when they're made outside the American South. Apparently, the hardness of wheat flour (which I didn't even know was a thing) is different, in different flour producing regions, and only the softer flours produce good biscuits.

This explains why they're a regional thing. It also explains why I, as a Texan, have had such mixed luck, with biscuits sometimes turning out perfectly, but other times turning out way too dense and horrible. Apparently, we get both types of flour here, and they are not labeled according to which one is the biscuit flour and which one is the bread/roll flour.

[-] NotAViciousCyborg@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

We do make them in several ways, you guys will probably be more familiar with the high tea scone but here is a (more complicated) savoury scone recipe which seems pretty biscuitty https://vintagekitchennotes.com/parmesan-chive-scones/#tasty-recipes-12290-jump-target

Also a sweet scone recipe which is generally used for high tea https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/classic-scones-jam-clotted-cream

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

Interesting. I'll have to see if I can figure out which of these hard vs soft flour types y'all have over there, so I'll know if they'll come out correctly. It's surprisingly difficult to ascertain, especially since I've forgotten the terms that one article used to describe the situation.

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

UK is a bad example though, it's basically an island that has an issue getting decent weed... decent anything really, they're consuming a ton of crappy coke, too. Horrible quality doesn't stop them though.

Other places do much better.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago

Crappy coke just seems like a natural safety feature, really. You toot a bunch of baking soda and flour, with some cocaine added for spice, party your face off, and you're never really in truly elevated danger of a heart attack. I'm sure it saves the NHS a lot of trouble.

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately, people don't simply add baking soda, but rather animal dewormer on one end of the spectrum, and fentanyl on the other, with all kinds of creative bullshit in between.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hmm. I suppose recent years have seen a shortage of dewormer (because morons were taking it, in a misguided attempt to cure covid) and a surplus of fentanyl (because morons are taking it, in general).

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Just to provide accurate information for anyone that might read this: different kind of dewormer. Cocaine has Levamisole, the covidiot crowd latched on to Ivermetcin.

It is somewhat "funny" that we now have multiple contexts in which people guzzle down animal deworming agents though. Ah well.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Honestly it's mixed.

I've been to Amsterdam a few times and california/colarado a couple times as well, so I think I have a good grasp on what good weed is like. And yeah a lot of weed in the UK is piss poor (which is why traditionally we would smoke hash) but if you know where to get it, you can find some one of the best week anywhere on earth. Easily the best, frostiest weed I have ever smoked has been locally grown UK stuff. That was grown by a freind of a freind you crossbreed discobiscuit with some strains he got from dam.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

That sounds like you experienced organised crime’s commercial grade PGR weed. A real pity. Analogous to the wine industry our bud runs the entire gamut from bunk to top-tier here in Europe. Some of us do alright. Don’t you worry. (Source: over thirty years enjoyment of the world’s recreational wonders)

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No British show would say this lol, this sounds American af

Marijuana, that classic British word...

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago

That's my bad. I accidentally translated it. I'm sure the narration that I was paraphrasing said "cannabis" instead.

[-] bratosch@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Laughs in alcohol at 18, legally

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'd rather be in a community with chronic weed smokers than alcoholics. A severe weed habit has it's faults, but pales in comparison to alcoholism.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Who’d want a society sitting on the couch eating a pizza and playing video games when you could have violent fighting everywhere?

The irony of it all

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago

I‘ve seen a german documentary about alcohol and the alcohol industry. If you want to be disgusted, give it a watch. Its on ard mediathek (pretty sure it has subtitles as well) https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/Y3JpZDovL3JiYl8yZjZkMWYwZS1mZWJmLTQ4MWQtODIzYy00NGJkZmYwMzRjN2RfcHVibGljYXRpb24

My personal favorite was heineken hiring hookers to fuck people in south afrika for buying their beer.

[-] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

100%. I'm from the UK and the drinking culture here is ridiculous. People don't just drink, they get wasted. My best friend died from alcohol abuse at 34.

There are people at my company who are very obviously alcoholics and spend the workday hungover or still drunk a lot of the time stinking of booze and that's totally fine apparently. But if I smoked weed at the weekend like I used to and came into work totally sober I'd test positive, get fired immediately, completely fuck my career prospects and very likely get a visit from the police trying to bust me. It is bullshit.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Laughs in alcohol at 18, legally

Yeah, but doesn't that mean you were drinking hard cider from a plastic bottle at age 12, in a forest, like some kind of demented hobbit?

EDIT: to be fair, that is actually pretty badass

[-] bratosch@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

That's ... An interesting conclusion

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's just basic math. If some 15-year-olds start drinking here, some 12-year-olds are going to start drinking on your side of the pond.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

A bit too basic perhaps. Just because euro teens get to buy booze earlier doesn’t mean they enter puberty and the rebellious experimenting with substances stage at age 10.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 9 months ago

I guess. Both the USA and the UK still have, like, legitimately appalling levels of alcoholism, though. So we're really just splitting meaningless hairs.

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago

That's a fair point. The way they tolerate public drunkenness over there is genuinely shocking to my sensibilities. It's not even a matter of tolerance, it's a matter of ENFORCED goddamn inebriation. Motherfuckers have to go get shitfaced with their boss, or else their career will go down the toilet.

Like...can you imagine if they did a version of The Office, in Japan? Every episode would end with the whole cast going down to the bar and getting sloppy fuckin' drunk. Funny for the first few episodes, but then it would just get sad.

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I worked with a group of Japanese scientists and PHD's in a nano tech lab. Every Friday night, they would take over Friday's bar and grill and stay until last call. They drank all hard liquor. I never saw any of them order food. It was an unspoken internal rule to just be there or you had some explaining to do on Monday and could lose your position and get sent back to Japan if you didn't have a good reason not to go.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's revolting. And what's even worse is that all these people are also expected to be married, too. If they're not, well, their careers will be stuck in the mud for THAT reason. So their poor spouse will be utterly miserable, either working as a stay-at-home butler to facilitate the saleryman/office-lady's career, or else staying at home in a different city, while the office worker is in a different prefecture, or on the other side of the globe.

All the bosses know they're ruining all these people's marriages (not least because their own marriages are hovering around near-homicide levels of dysfunction), but it's very important that everybody HAS an unhappy marriage, otherwise it's out of the ordinary, and being "normal" is the only real thing that counts in that culture.

It's genuinely surprising that they manage to continue, as a modern nation.

But of course, just to put the crowning punchline on the joke, their corporate culture is STILL less fucking insane than Western corporate culture, because at LEAST their executives are paid far less, compared to the average worker's salary. I guess the whole concept of treating your employees as your personal drinking-buddy-slaves is compensation for a much less ludicrous pay package, once you reach the top end of the corporate structure.

EDIT: also add in blatant and shocking levels of sexism, racism, and homophobia that also run entirely rampant through Japanese (and Korean) corporate culture.

[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Brits never use the term marijuana. They're familiar with it from American media etc, but they call it Cannabis in UK and elsewhere.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

You're completely right. I knew something didn't sound right, when I was replicating the narrator voice.

[-] mac@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago

I have never ever heard a common British person call it marijuana or cannabis unless it was in a sarcastic manner as in "Oop you smoking a bit of the marijuana?"

It's always weed, lean, green or something other slang term.

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

Well, this was in the context of a narrator clinically (yet also overdramatically) describing a person developing a "serious habit" of smoking weed, as if it's the same thing as being addicted to fucking heroin or crack.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 9 months ago

If you can get super high on weed and still commit crimes: I'd be impressed. Sometimes I get so high, I can't even put my shoes on right.

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