@not_me_now @DoctorTYVM

Some Americans feel the same way about those who burn a flag.

You don't even have to imagine. That's the sad part.

Yet all these left leaning European countries have tried to turn a blind eye or downplay every time one of these groups have assaulted or threatened someone.

Which countries do you mean? And could you explain how they ignored people assaulting other people?

I fail to see why this is a thing, or why you mention it's somehow a "left" thing.

The reason it's more significant now is that Turkey is using the book burning as an excuse to withhold approving NATO membership. After that it became news, before that it wasn't news. Meaning, no need to make up stuff about you making up things about "left leaning".

It IS islamophobia if you think all or most Muslims are like that. Do you think DJ Khaled or Dave Chappelle wants to kill you?

And that’s NOT what Islam says.

This isn't Islamophobia.

Islamophobia definitely exists, and is the phobia / hatred of all those who practice Islam, i.e. Muslims, via a generalization that all Muslims are extreme and dangerous. This is objectively false, and systemic Islamophobia needs to stop.

However, this here is cause for concern, as there are a few extreme fundamentalist Muslims calling for the death of people over a burned book. That's not Islamophobia, that's a fear response to a direct, physical threat.

Someone else in the thread mentioned some Americans calling for the death of anyone who burns the American flag. This is also extremely concerning.

Burn every science book and eventually they'll be exactly rewritten. Burn every religious story and they're gone forever.

Yeah, all major religions are known for their very level-headed followers. No need to worry.

Muslims allowing islam to be known as 'the religion of peace' is one of the biggest doublespeaky manipulations around. They're technically correct, because they're referring to this line from the quran: "There will be peace on earth when there is no more al-fitnah". Al-fitnah means 'disbelief' so what they're saying is, there WILL be peace on earth, once we've converted everyone to our religion (forcibly or otherwise).

I'm a bookworm, read voraciously, and as a sad lonely young teen who struggled to understand religious people, decided to read all the books. Hindu vedas; Christian old / new testament; Buddhist dhamapada; quran, and the hadith. Islam is an awful religion when taken literally, and the few islamic sects who are genuinely peaceful (eg ahmadi, sufi) are not even considered 'real muslims' by the more popular interpretations (eg sunni / shia / salafi).

Don't rely on out-of-context quotes from dodgy rightwingers, don't rely on out-of-context explanations from muslims seeking to proselytise and make excuses, EVERYONE should read it for themselves so you're debating on solid ground with facts on your side. My absolute favourite line from these particular religious texts is when Mohammed says he wants another wife to his (iirc final wife) Aisha. Aisha says something like, you've already had the maximum number of wives; Mo falls into a trance then says, don't worry, I just spoke to god and he says it's fine. She replies "Oh, how your god rushes to fulfil your desires". Even she knew it was a crock of shit.