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Tuberville, who's singlehandedly blocked hundreds of military promotions in protest over the Pentagon's abortion policies, said he's not going to change his mind and doesn't care that people aren't being promoted.

After the US Supreme Court reversed decades of precedent in overturning its decision in the Roe v. Wade abortion access case in 2022, the Pentagon announced its plan to reimburse service members who need to travel out-of-state to receive abortion services.

Tuberville, a Republican senator out of Alabama, took exception to the decision and said he'd use his power to stymie any military nominations and promotions he could. Since February, he's blocked more than 300 promotions.

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 149 points 1 year ago

What a smug ass. A true representation of his constitutes.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago

Indeed. He's just as disingenuous, illogical, and pants-shittingly stupid as his voters. All they care about is the tantrum, and it's about fucking time the military learned that the GOP doesn't give a damn about anything except using them as props.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

And worse, it's a tantrum about white supremacy, he's punishing the military for trying to push these terrorists out of their ranks.

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 115 points 1 year ago

The dems need to plaster this smug fucks face leering over a dead soldiers body with the caption "Because of Republican Inaction. I Wasn't Ready."

These ads write themselves.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 36 points 1 year ago

Eh, the only reason Doug Jones won in Alabama was because he ran against an admitted pedophile, and that contest was close.

Tuberville knows he can get away with a lot of shit as long as he stays Republican.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

It would still suit their national campaign

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

There is absolute proof Republicans are anti-military.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

God, my memory of them from when I was a kid is such that this would be a scandal in 2004. Do you think they were always like this? I don't.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Conservatives are known to be pro war, but no promilitary and have never been strong supporters of military veterans since Vietnam. In fact most Veterans end up in Govt service because Republican businessmen refuse to hire veterans.

Liberals view the military as a public service, to be used when all else fails. They would view military use for the protection of U.S. interests as necessary but are unlikely to commit a large force to accomplish the mission.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

They have always been this way, they pander to the military because too many of us in the military and veterans eat that shit up with a smile, but when it comes time for raises, better housing, lawsuits, the massive rape and harassment problem, the gang problems, pollution, and so many other problems they turn a blind eye to, instead they want to kick out people for being gay.

[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Remember when Biden was speaking before Congress and mentioned cleaning up the toxic 'burn pits' that have harmed veterans, and MTG and Boebert stood up and started booing him?

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[-] Fish@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans aren't anti-military, just anti-proletarian. Soldiers aren't wealthy people, so fuck'em

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago

At least he's consistent with his party's stance on hating both the military and the US

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[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 74 points 1 year ago

GOP: How could Joe Biden do this to our troops?

[-] foiledAgain@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

You mean “why would Hunter’s laptop do this?”

[-] knotthatone@lemmy.one 70 points 1 year ago

He's an ass, but this isn't single-handed. He only has this power because his fellow Republicans (and Manchin, and probably Sinema) are allowing it. If a handful of Republicans wanted to fix this, they absolutely could.

[-] teft@startrek.website 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From an NPR article:

Why don't the Senate leaders stop him?

The current Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has made it clear he considers Tuberville's blockade an abuse and an outrage. The GOP's McConnell has also said he does not support the "blanket hold" on military nominations. Both have acknowledged the pleas coming from the Pentagon and from the ranks, and they have done what they could to encourage Tuberville to stand down.

But the leaders cannot simply bulldoze the senator from Alabama. Their power is restrained by Senate rules and traditions and by the sentiments of their respective caucuses.

If the issue here were an ordinary piece of legislation, the leaders would seek a unanimous consent agreement that would bring that matter to the floor. Individual senators may object to that with a notice that they seek "extended debate" on that legislation. This is an implicit threat to filibuster, and the majority leader routinely files a cloture petition and holds a vote.

If cloture fails, the legislation does not go to the floor. If three-fifths of the Senate supports cloture, the legislation can be brought to the floor with time limits on debate.

Presidential nominations have been largely exempt from this since 2013 when a Democratic Senate majority decided only nominations to the Supreme Court would be subject to filibusters. In 2017, a Republican majority decided to extend that exemption to include Supreme Court nominations.

Nonetheless, Tuberville's maneuver has the effect of freezing confirmations for the current backlog presidential nominations because they are submitted in batches for group consideration and approval. The batching procedure itself requires unanimous consent, allowing even one senator to stand in the way.

The Senate majority leader could bring the nominations to the floor one by one for consideration by regular procedure, but that would require two to three days for each. Had the Senate tried to individually process even the first 150 promotions Tuberville blocked back in February, it could have done little else in the months since – and it would still be far behind on confirmations. That is scarcely practical when the military alone submits hundreds a year and the larger executive branch far more.

Moreover, just as the Pentagon bristles at having a single senator dictate its personnel policy, so the Senate leaders are loath to have individual senators deciding when and if the Senate can proceed with normal business using its usual procedures – such as the batching of nominations.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 39 points 1 year ago

Translation: there's nothing really stopping us from going around Tuberville, but we feel the senate's stupid arcane rules are more important than national security and having responsible people in charge if Trump tries to do a coup again.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Literally. Oh, it's too long to do it one by one? Maybe prioritize then? Confirm 2-3 of the biggest promotions in order to prevent the Senate from abdicating it's Constitutional responsibility and ceding control of the military entirely to the executive.

I really don't care about US military readiness but I do value checks and balances, and right now the Senate is refusing to serve as one.

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[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Republicans are the biggest batch of corrupt pussies I've seen in my fucking life.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

If the dems were smart they would use this to campaign to military people, along with the dozens of things Trump has done to piss them off.

But the dems are physically incapable of advertising themselves to the Republic core audience, while simultaneously harping on about compromise and reaching across the ilse.

[-] DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I doubt most military people care. Those positions are being filled by acting commanders until people are promoted to fill them permanently, in most cases by the people nominated to fill them. They aren't just vacant.

Retired military here, and I just can't get too worked up over someone filling that position is getting 2-star pay instead of 3-star pay, or Colonel pay instead of 1-star pay.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It sucks if you are the one in line for a promotion though. To have all your hard work go to waste for some stupid political issue unrelated to you

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[-] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Every time I say something "extreme" I am bombarded by people who think taking the high road is the answer while the GOP would literally sell them into slavery or beat them to death with baseball bats for fun.

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[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The Dems honestly feel like controlled opposition

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[-] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 year ago

I believe that there is an active conspiracy to destroy the USA from within and this is proof of that. Follow the money and you'll uncover who is behind it. My guess, China, Russia and maybe some Oligarchs around that.

[-] nutbiggums@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the Saudis

[-] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

No, it's just the absolute demons y'all elect lol

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Why are other republicans quiet on this one? Why they don’t tell Tubertool to fuck himself and vote on those promotions?

Entire GOP is complicit in destroying the military preparedness. Republicans all are harming the armed forces, Tubertool is just a tool they are using.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Because someone is undermining the ability of the Biden administration to do things, and when it is reported most people will juat blame Biden instead of paying attention to the actual problem.

Not doing anything benefits the Republicans.

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[-] el_guapazo@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago

He's stalling until Trump is elected, then push through the white supremacists.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Hopefully he's kept waiting and then voted out himself.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

In Alabama? We have as much chance as someone in the leftmost portion of Manchin's penumbra being elected in WV.

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[-] MajorJimmy@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Republicans are just domestic terrorists

[-] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago

Maybe we should just draft this fucker and send him on a Middle East deployment as a private.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Wow, he looks as much like a smug cunt as he acts.

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[-] HWK_290@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I wonder what his constituency thinks. I mean, the ones with more than 2 brain cells to rub together. Surely his phones should be ringing off the hook. I know he doesn't care but I hope there's some noise being made

[-] ATQ@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

He hates the people they hate. That’s more important to them than supporting the military, which they claim to do.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I mean, the ones with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

He's from Alabama if that answers your question. Congress is on summer recess, he's been back in Alabama at various events, and the reports I've seen is that he's had a hero's welcome.

In Alabama the only shot a Dem has of winning in a Senate seat is of the Republican is a literal pedophile, and even then just barely as we've seen. A Republican Senator's only real risk is a primary from the right. This kind of bullshit plays well with the Republican base. So here we are.

Dems need to force this issue, either hold a vote to change the rule allowing quick passage of promotions, or start having 20 hour a day sessions 7 days a week to vote on each promotion individually. All this complaining about Tubberville and the harm he's causing the military only plays into his hand of allowing him to cast himself as the lone warrior against the godless woke whatever the fuck.

[-] VM_Abrantes@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

They apparently don't even care that he doesn't even live in Alabama. It's also very telling when a man insists on being referred to as "coach" instead of "senator".

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[-] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 18 points 1 year ago

Tommy Tuberville sounds like some kind if ringmaster to a potato circus

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

Now that it's impacting military readiness the executive has made it possible for those awaiting promotion to act in the role that they will eventually have. So, effectively, what Tuberville is doing is removing Senate oversight from the process. It's a self-own and he's super proud of it.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

If you don't hate this guy enough, go to his wikipedia page and look at the section about his charity

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck were you right , Tuberville is such a corrupt piece of trash, he's easily the George Santos of football coaches.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

We’re all aware that republicans don’t give a fuck about optics but this is a really bad look for them. Tommy Teletubbie is truly trying to destroy America for the sake of Trump and Russia and Republicans are letting him do it.

[-] teamevil@unilem.org 12 points 1 year ago

Remove this this stupid fuck from office.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Man pledges to continue destroying lives, 300 already claimed.

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